the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Hopkins won all 11 rounds on my card, he out fought Tito every round even the couple some might try to give to Trinidad.

 

My bad. I thought you thought it went to points.

But now I see that's your card at the time of the stoppage.

 

Fight 35: De La Hoya v Trinidad

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 10-9
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 9-10

I have it 116-112.

I've watched this a few times recently but from the point of view of defending the official scorecard. Trying to see which rounds can be justified for Tito.

Don't get me wrong I don't think this is a robbery, but it is Oscar's best performance for me. I can see it being scored a draw but if I score this fight honestly, Tito on deserves 4 rounds on my card.

Oscar boxes beautifully and it's a shame how negative he was during the last two rounds. Considering a year later he'd slug it out with Mosley in round 12 I reckon it's fair to say he'd have survived a more aggressive finale here.

Tito doesn't necessarily come off as the lesser fighter here and Oscar is never comfortable with his power, but he is certainly the inferior boxer through 12 as Oscar made him look incredibly one dimensional for 9 rounds.

The way Oscar moves and nullifies Tito shows his immense skill level.

Is it an contradiction to say this is his best performance whilst not being a robbery? I don't know. I do know this though, Tito is easily the best opponent that you can argue an Oscar victory for. He clearly lost to Mosley, Vargas and Mayorga were inferior to Tito, Camacho Chavez and Whittaker were all faded. This is the best man who Oscar gave a winning performance against. I feel I can justify Tito winning it but in my heart of hearts I see clearly Oscar deserved this.

 

Fight 36: Toney v McCallum

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 10-9
5: 9-10
6: 10-9
7: 9-10
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 10-9
11: 10-9
12: 10-9

117-111

This fight is incredible. Both men operating at such a high level. Up until round 8 almost every round is a swing round.

Mike had the better jab and body work. Toney had the better power shots and defence. Both have relatively slow feet which meant the fight was fought at close quarters throughout.

I know Toney usually gets more credit for the Nunn fight but for me, banking on your body work and landing big shots against a man who was tight at the weight is not as impressive as out boxing Mike in the pocket.

It was a draw on the official card but I challenge anyone to find me a better version of Toney than the one who entered the ring this night. A draw is an understandable card but a Toney victory is the right result here.

Amazing to believe this man would be using the same tactics against Sam Peter 15 years later and for those who don't believe in artifical bulking, ask yourself which version of Toney has most success against Peter, this peak version or the 15 year older fat version. For me it's the latter hands down.

 

Fight 37: Nelson v Fenech

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 9-10

111-117

I hate using the word robbery, so I'm not going to. Is there anyone out there who can find 7 rounds for Nelson in this fight?

I mean apart a 90 second spell on round 8, Nelson spent the last ten rounds pinned on the ropes taking a beating. He very nearly got stopped in the final round.

Fenech was a machine this night. Rapid fire combinations, incredible strength and stamina. Nelson could not deal with him. Incredible stuff from Fenech.

The only negative is how skilled the infighting was. Makes me pissed off at the state of HW boxing atm where infighting is substituted by a strong clinch game.

 

Fight 38: Pacquaio v Morales

1: 10-9
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: 9-10
9: 10-9
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 10-9

111-117

Pacquaio looks so uncomfortable throughout this fight. At this point in his career he'd hit the big time and had steam rolled most of his opposition. This is the first man he faced who met him face on.

Morales didn't box him from range like JMM he merely stood his ground and met fire with fire. Every punch Pacquaio landed was met with 3 or 4 by Morales. Morales as a fighter has always fascinated me. For some with his physique it always amazed me how he could get leverage on straight shots up close.

The only round I disagreed with Lederman on was round 5. Not sure if I was scoring blood or not but I can't award that round to Pacquaio given how distressed he was.

This night really was the pinnacle of Morales. I scored the 12th for Pac but that easily could have gone his way with his switch hitting success.

Such a shame that this was pretty much the end of his career as an elite talent.

 

We had a few rounds different but the same winner.

Round 1: 10-9 Nelson
Round 2: 10-9 Nelson
Round 3: 10-9 Fenech
Round 4: 10-9 Fenech
Round 5: 10-9 Fenech
Round 6: 10-9 Fenech
Round 7: 10-9 Fenech
Round 8: 10-9 Fenech
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-9 Fenech
Round 11: 10-9 Nelson
Round 12: 10-9 Fenech

Score: 117-112 Fenech

 

8,9 and 11 we disagree on.

Atrocious decision imo.

 

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Canelo Alvarez - Miguel Cotto


Rd 1 - 10-9, Cotto
Rd 2 - 10-9, Cotto
Rd 3 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 4 - 10-9, Cotto
Rd 5 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 6 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 7 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 8 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 9 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 10 - 10-9, Canelo
Rd 11 - 10-9, Cotto
Rd 12 - 10-9, Canelo


116-112, Canelo

 

Fight 39: Barrera vs Morales

1: 9-10
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 9-10
11: 10-9
12: 10-9

115-113

I can see how this goes to Morales as rounds 8 and 11 were really close. For me it's a tale of two fights with Morales keeping MAB on the back foot until that cut eye and then MAB having much more success down the stretch.

This impresses me more than the frst fight. I don't prefer it but is more impressive. The first fight was a brawl which saw MAB overwhelm Morales. This time the two fighters were much better versions (despite the form of EM going into this fight).

There were some great exchanges and some great boxing at every range. Very nip and tuck throughout and there really wasn't an awful lot to separate them. I do feel MAB nicked it down the stretch and this I probably the best opponent he ever beat in the ring.

 

Fight 40: Lewis vs VitalI

1: 10-9
2: 9-10
3: 10-9
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 10-9

This is the fight that convinces me Lewis is a h2h ATG. Sure he's looked more impressive before but has he ever faced anyone as good as a prime Vitali? Not in my book.

The way he adjusted to take to the fight inside and land those over and rights was incredible especially given the fact he was noticeably tiring.

Some might say he looks better in earlier fights but I'd respond with those earlier opponents not being as easy to look good against as Vitali.

 

Brandon Rios - Richard Abril


Rd 1 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 2 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 3 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 4 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 5 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 6 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 7 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 8 - 10-9, Rios
Rd 9 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 10 - 10-9, Abril
Rd 11 - 10-9, Rios
Rd 12 - 10-9, Abril


118-110, Abril

 

Fight 41: Holmes v Witherspoon

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 10-9
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 9-10
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 10-9
12: 10-9

116-112

One of my favourite performances by Holmes is this one. He shows so many dimensions here against a man, who whilst unheralded, is without doubt on of the best HW fighters in history.

Holmes starts off jabbing beautifully but when Spoon is able to offset that with his own jab he is able to time that with his overhand right.

Holmes also shows a real fire to win with some of the exchanges and rounds 9 and 10 demonstrate how solid his chin is.

I don't see 7 rounds that can be scored for Spoon but it was a very close fight. Holmes just wanted it more.

 

Fight 42: Tyson vs Spinks

1: tko

What can you say? Tyson obliterated one of the greatest fighters in history without breaking a sweat. Fantastic performance against a man who proved his class against Holmes and Cooney.