the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Fight 43: Johnson v Burns

Utter dominance by Johnson. Out jabbed, out hooked and out punched the over matched champ.

Not a fan of the holding, especially by someone with his infighting ability.

He still passes the eye test even now imo. What a great fighter.

 

I had it a little closer, but the same winner.

Round 1: 10-9 Holmes
Round 2: 10-9 Holmes
Round 3: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Holmes
Round 6: 10-9 Holmes
Round 7: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 8: 10-9 Holmes
Round 9: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 10: 10-9 Holmes
Round 11: 10-9 Witherspoon
Round 12: 10-10 Even

116-114 Holmes

 

I had Holmes-Witherspoon 114-114. Chances are, if it's a 12-rounder I'll have it scored 114-114.

But yeah, any whelping about a robbery in this one is just dumb. Apparently one can't have a close fight without it being called a robbery .

 

I'm 3 rounds into Holyfield v Qawi. What a belter.

 

John Molina - Humberto Soto


Rd 1 - 10-9, Soto
Rd 2 - 10-9, Molina
Rd 3 - 10-9, Molina
Rd 4 - 10-9, Molina
Rd 5 - 10-9, Soto
Rd 6 - 10-8, Soto (point deducted from Molina for low blows)
Rd 7 - 9-9, Even (point deducted from Molina for low blows)
Rd 8 - 10-9, Molina
Rd 9 - 10-9, Soto
Rd 10 - 9-9, Even (point deducted from Soto for low blows)

94-93, Soto

 

Fight 44: Qawi vs Holyfield

1: 9-10
2: 10-9
3: 10-9
4: 10-9
5: 10-9
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: 9-10
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 9-10
13: 9-10
14: 9-10
15: 9-10

139 - 146

This fight was mega competitive. Holy won ye first through raw youthful aggression. The next 4 rounds gave the impression that Holy had bitten off more than he could chew as Qawi bullied him, tied him and battered him on the inside.

Then suddenly in round 6 Holyfield developed some of the best infighting skill seen on film, n close quarters he was able to sidestep and pop the overhand right setting up point scoring flurries that could push Qawi back. This repeated through to the end with Qawi have good success up close but Holy out maneuvering him and getting off more shots.

The scorecard is a bit flattering as some of those late rounds were nicked. Pretty much every single round was competitive.

Shame we didn't see a Qawi v DeLeon unification cos this version of Dwight was incredible. Not many men beat him.

 

Fight 45: Gomez v Nelson

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 9-10
9: 10-9
10: 9-10
11: tko

This was the fight that showed the world just how multi dimensional Nelson was a boxer.

Due to his power he's often been referred to as a brawler but I always saw him as more of a counter puncher.

This fight was very back and forth and Gomez showed superior footwork and hand speed but the defence of Nelson meant he didn't take too many shots in the rounds he was losing and the counter punching ability meant he probably caused more damage in the the rounds he was losing.

What a lazer of a right hand he possessed.

Beautiful perormance.

 

I did this one about a month ago. This is what I wrote.

Azumah Nelson vs. Wilfredo Gomez

Make sure you watch the English version on youtube with Al Bernstein commentating (it's a whole video about 54 minutes I think) because the clarity is far better than the ones that are broken up into parts and with the spanish commentators. Those are a bit blurry. Anyways here we go.

Round 1: 10-9 Nelson
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Nelson (I think Bernstein gave this to Gomez but he missed more than he landed - his timing got better as the fight went on)
Round 4: 10-9 Nelson
Round 5: 10-9 Gomez
Round 6: 10-9 Gomez
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Nelson
Round 9: 10-9 Gomez
Round 10: 10-9 Nelson
Round 11: KO for Nelson

Through 10 completed rounds I had Nelson up 97-95. I believe officially that Gomez was leading on two judges scorecards and even on the third. I can assure you that the Puerto Rican audience carried a lot of influence. Two of the best officials I've seen - **** Young and Harry Gibb - seemed rattled in San Juan. Young had Gomez leading in this fight and Gibb let Gomez get away with murder in the Zarate fight. Also here you can see Octavio Meyran would not take points from Gomez for continuous low blows.

 

Fight 46: Marquez vs Diaz

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 10-9
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: tko

One of my all time favourite fights here. The way Marquez defends in the first 3, relying on the accumulation of his share punching is incredible.

Juan Diaz is like a man possessed here and cannot believe JMM isn't slowing down. The combination punching and the timing is absolutely perfect.

This fight had everything and it was a great victory by a great fighter.

 

I agree with you, there's no way Gomez was winning that fight.

He had a good pocket of rounds which saw him out boxing Nelson and out jabbing him, but every time Nelson came forward he had his way with Gomez.

More people need to watch this because the way it's labelled a come from behind ko is a disservice.

 

MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA 104 | 101 KENNEDY MCKINNEY

Thru eleven rounds, Barrera gets the TKO in round 12. What a fight, I didn't realize this was the first ever Boxing After Dark main event on HBO. Man did the fighters deliver, HBO picked a good one!

 

Fight 47: Pedroza v Olivares

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 10-9
5: 9-10
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 10-9
11: 10-9
12: tko

Fight of 3 sessions this.

First two rounds see them trying to figure each other out and it becomes quite apparent that any fight at range benefits Pedroza.

Rounds 3-5 show a very competitive bout with Olivares making adjustments aimed at driving Pedroza back to the ropes and he had very good success with this. The quality of exchanges occurring at the ropes is incredible, barely a clinch in sight. Really highlights how unskilled modern HW boxing is.

Round 6 was a big turning point for me, Pedroza kinda accepted he wasn't going too be able to keep Olivares at range and we see him step up his inside game and actually out punch Olivares up close with a combination of incredible defence and rapid counters. I think after that first exchange at the ropes Olivares knows he's beaten. He isn't outboxing at range, he isn't out boxing up close and he's unlikely to wear down the bigger fresher man. Kinda reminiscent of Hatton v Floyd a bit in that respect of utter defeat at every range.

Olivares is a fighter though, he continues to drive forward hoping to land the big shot but ultimately sees himself picked apart until the 12th round which was brutal.

Master class of a performance against a true ATG opponent albeit one who was past his best.

 

Fight 48: Tiger v Fullmer

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 10-9
4: 10-9
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: tko

It's quite often said how you can't beat Tiger on the front foot due to his exceptional timing and anticipation. Unfortunately for Fullmer he found out that he couldn't beat him on the back foot either.

It's not often we get to see Tiger looking a brutish and strong as we do here. It's amazing to think in his very next fight Giardello would do what very few could and score a clear victory over Tiger.

I always considered Fullmer like a MW Tunney someone who was exceptional behind the jab but not afraid of mixing it up on the inside, but there was no denying Tiger this night who at times resembled Frazier the way he cut the ring off and leapt in with the left hook.

Still find it hard to believe Joey could see easily nullify this man.

Tonight he looked like one of the best ever.

 

Is that Ruben Olivares vs Eusebio Pedroza? I ask because I can't think of any ATG HW's named Olivares, and your line "Really highlights how unskilled modern HW boxing is." is somewhat confussing me. Sorry lol.

 

Fight 49: Brown vs Ortiz

1: 10-9
2: 10-9
3: 10-9
4: 10-9
5: 9-10
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: 9-10
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 9-10
13: 9-10
14: 9-10
15: 9-10

139-146

Very high level fight this, and the latest fight to win my "best ever jabbing display".

In the first rounds we see the jabs being quite even, range finding to a degree. Brown is a bit quicker though and is able to get off better world on the inside, probably due to his smaller reach.

Ironically the rest of the fight Brown kind of shies away from any exchanges up close, maybe he didn't like the power he felt or maybe he's too used to jabbing on the back foot and isn't able to go to plan B, but what happened was quit simple. Ortiz changes the style of his jab so it's a more offensive weapon and once he gets in close Brown ties him up. The problem is Ortiz is now winning the battle on the outside and due to the clinching there is no inside battle, which is were Brown had the upper hand earlier on.

The fight follows this pattern till the death.

This is probably the worst use of clinching I've ever seen by an elite level fighter. He must have known he was losing the battle of the jab as he was still flicking it out whilst Ortiz was driving it forward, not sure where he felt his points were going to come from after that.

Quite a submissive performance down the stretch, like he knew he didn't have what it takes to win the fight and unlike Olivaries he didn't go out on his shield. More like Wlad actually who didn't know what to do when he finally lost an outside battle against Fury.