the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Manny Pacquiao - Jessie Vargas


Rd 1 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 2 - 10-8, Pacquiao
Rd 3 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 4 - 10-9, Vargas
Rd 5 - 10-9, Vargas
Rd 6 - 10-9, Vargas
Rd 7 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 8 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 9 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 10 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 11 - 10-9, Pacquiao
Rd 12 - 10-9, Pacquiao


117-110, Pacquiao

 

Fight 96: Leonard vs Duran

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 9-10
8: 9-10
9: 9-10
10: 10-9
11: 10-9
12: 9-10
13: 9-10
14: 10-9
15: 10-9

141-144

Quite often I hear people saying anything less than 10-5 is too generous to Leonard but this fight was exceptionally close.

So much of this fight is Duran pushing Leonard against the ropes, the two exchanging on fairly even terms and the round being won by the man who lands the most knee buckling punch in the exchange.

The fight is fought at such a furious pace.

Two men actually laying it all on the line for greatness. There was some serious leather thrown here and you would not tip the winner of this war to succumb to a Hearns flurry so easily.

Holistically it is clear that Duran is ring general thought and has effective aggression. Clean punching is about even for the two. That being said whilst Duran is winning the fight, round by round there are so many swing rounds in this fight I can see how it could be scored for Leonard. I don't agree but I do see.

That being said this is an incredible performance by Duran and it really shows just how brilliant he was.

He stood toe to toe with one of the best fighters in recorded history and came out on top.

Absolutely incredible.

 

Fight 97: Duran vs Leonard

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 10-9
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 9-10
7: 9-10
8: tko

Of all the excuses ever made for a fighter, this is the worst one. Boo hoo he eat junk food instead of train, the man had 5 months in between fights that's plenty of time to whip himself into shape.

What this fight did do is show the multi dimensional aspect of Leonard's game.
The way he beat Duran from the outside was incredible.

So quick on his feet, so sharp with his shots. He didn't just beat Duran, he broke him.

One of the best performances ever. Fight for fight Leonard has the best quality career in history. 3 of the best victories in history and that isn't even including the overwhelming assault that broke down Benitez, nor does it include the technical masterclass against Kalule.

I still can't make my mind up about this fight though. If he fought Montreal Duran with this gameplan, would he win? Could he realistically stay outside of the relentless pressure when brought first time around? My heart says no, but my head says he proved he could do here.

Greater, no, but better, yes. Leonard was the best one of the fab 4.

 

Fight 98: Jones Jr vs Hopkins

1:10-9
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:10-9
5:10-9
6:10-9
7:10-9
8:10-9
9:10-9
10:10-9
11:9-10
12:9-10

118-110

Jones Jr, virtually shuts out an absolute legend in Hopkins.

I know it was the first big fight for both men but I honestly don't buy into the whole green argument.

Hopkins went on to dominate for a decade. He arguably didn't suffer defeat again until Chad Dawson.

Taylor and Calzaghe both took SD victories but the fights could easily go the other way. Jones made it look so easy.

Whether it was pot shotting at range or leaping onto pre emptive ambush attacks, he just did what he wanted.

Hopkins adapted and tried to brawl and pressure him against the ropes but Jones was too atheltic to stay pinned down.

If you can't beat him on the outside and you can't catch him on the inside what the hell do you do? Hopkins chose to keep pushing and those last two rounds he finally had some decent success.

The fight often goes under the radar because at the time it was an obscure meeting between two prospects, but even then the commentators notice how well schooled Hopkins is, and that he's a better technician than Jones, however he just can't make it work against someone so quick.

Truth be told, I don't favour any one to make it work against him.

 

Can't believe I only have two fights left now.
Absolutely mental.

 

degale jack was a really good fight, wasn't keeping score but I will if I watch it again.
jack sure didn't fight like he was tight at the weight, be surprised to see him move up with this rematch on the table.

 

Fight 99: Whitaker vs Chavez

1:9-10
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:10-9
5:9-10
6:10-9
7:10-9
8:10-9
9:10-9
10:10-9
11:10-9
12:10-9

118-110

This fight was an incredible performance by Sweet Pea. Not even getting into the controversial nature of the cards, it was an incredible showing.

His footwork was brilliant but more than that was his activity. He was constantly punching and catching Chávez on the way in as well as from range.

Some rounds were close because of how aggressive Chávez was also due to the seeming nature of Chávez being the bigger puncher. Rounds 2,6 and 12 could have realistically gone to Julio. Any other rounds are a bit of a stretch imo.

Whitaker proved himself here as a p4p god.

IMO a p4p god bettered only by 1 other fight in history...

 

Fight 100: LaMotta vs Robinson


1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 9-10
12: 9-10
13: tko

What a fight to finish my quest on.

The Valentine's day massacre. Ironically this wasn't really a massacre at all, the first 4 rounds saw Robinson stick and move with flash combinations from the outside. The next 4 saw LaMotta up a gear and Robinson go on the defensive to conserve his energy. Sugar didn't fancy standing his ground at that point so he got on his bike to avoid taking much damage.

Round 9 saw Robinson gamble by meeting Jake in the middle of the ring and going on the front foot in the hope Jake had used up a lot of energy chasing him round the ring. He was right, from there we saw Sugar walking forward and whipping in the best combination punches I've ever seen.

Round 11 saw Jake have a moment of success but that was to be followed by Sugar spinning him round and landing a volley of flush hurtful shots.

The last two rounds are a massacre, Robinson dominated him landing every shot in the book until the ref waved it off.

The best performance I've ever seen on film.

Now that my list has been completed with this great fight, there's only one thing to do, go grab myself a Pabst Blue Ribbon.

 

I've changed the order a couple of times over the past 6 month but this is my top 100 that I'm sticking with now. The only change will be if modern fighters userp any positions in it:

1 Ray Robinson
2 Pernell Whitaker
3 Roy Jones
4 Ray Leonard
5 Roberto Duran
6 Benny Leonard
7 Henry Armstrong
8 Willie Pep
9 Ezzard Charles
10 Muhammad Ali
11 Eder Jofre
12 Joe Louis
13 Marvin Hagler
14 Thomas Hearns
15 Jose Napoles
16 Salvador Sanchez
17 Wilfredo Gomez
18 Floyd Mayweather
19 Manny Pacquaio
20 Jimmy Wilde
21 Carlos Monzon
22 Bernard Hopkins
23 Joe Gans
24 Julio Cesar Chavez
25 Miguel Canto
26 Alexis Arguello
27 Sandy Saddler
28 Ruben Olivares
29 Carlos Zarate
30 Charley Burley
31 Kid Gavilan
32 Jack Dempsey
33 Rocky Marciano
34 Sonny Liston
35 Sam Langford
36 Gene Tunney
37 Archie Moore
38 Fighting Harada
39 Manuel Ortiz
40 Vicente Saldivar
41 Ricardo Lopez
42 Mickey Walker
43 Emile Griffith
44 Luis Manuel Rodriguez
45 Michael Spinks
46 Billy Conn
47 Jimmy Bivins
48 Mike Gibbons
49 Bob Foster
50 Carlos Ortiz
51 Packey McFarland
52 Dick Tiger
53 Eusebio Pedroza
54 Juan Manuel Marquez
55 Azumah Nelson
56 Evander Holyfield
57 Jack Johnson
58 Mike Tyson
59 Larry Holmes
60 Lennox Lewis
61 Marco Antonio Barrera
62 Erik Morales
63 Jeff Fenech
64 James Toney
65 Oscar De La Hoya
66 Shane Mosley
67 Felix Trinidad
68 Wilfred Benitez
69 Jersey Joe Walcott
70 George Foreman
71 Aaron Pryor
72 Niccolino Locche
73 Antonio Cervantes
74 Esteban De Jesus
75 Barney Ross
76 Tony Canzoneri
77 Jimmy McLarnin
78 Floyd Patterson
79 Lou Ambers
80 Ike Williams
81 Mike McCallum
82 Pascual Perez
83 Jung-Koo Chang
84 Khaosai Galaxy
85 Fred Apostoli
86 Freddie Steele
87 Winky Wright
88 Vernon Forrest
89 John Conteh
90 Victor Galindez
91 Dwight Qawi
92 Miguel Lora
93 Orlando Canizalez
94 Yuri Arbachakov
95 Don Curry
96 Michael Nunn
97 Naseem Hamed
98 Vitali Klitschko
99 Wladimir Kitschko
100 Alfonso Zamora

 

Cheers man.

Never thought I'd get there!

 

It was a hell of a ride.

 

Aye, that it was

 

Felix Sturm - Fedor Chudinov I


Rd 1 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 2 - 10-9, Sturm
Rd 3 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 4 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 5 - 10-9, Sturm
Rd 6 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 7 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 8 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 9 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 10 - 10-9, Chudinov
Rd 11 - 10-9, Sturm
Rd 12 - 10-9, Chudinov


117-111, Chudinov