the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. RDJ

    RDJ Boxing Junkie banned

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    Just watched Marquez Vasquez II, no scoring needed.
     
  2. RDJ

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    Watching Oscar De La Hoya vs. Javier Castillejo right now. Not scoring either just watching their biomechanics.
     
  3. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just watched Johnny Owen-Lupe Pintor for the first time, very sad I was tempted to turn it off just before the end but saw it through.
    I'd read that Johnny had put up a good fight but didn't realise how tough a night he gave Pintor. Strangely enough for all the talk about John looking frail it was his strength and aggression that was giving Pintor all the problems for the first 8 rounds. After the first knockdown which he did well to get up from it all went downhill.
    Should his corner of pulled him out? Who can say, it's easy to blame in hindsight. I'm sure that corner thought the world of Johnny and never imagined what might happen.
    In the words of Hugh Mcllvanney:- "..boxing gave Johnny Owen his one positive means of self expression. Outside the ring he was an inaudible and almost invisible personality. Inside, he became astonishingly positive and self assured. he seemed to me to be more at home there than anywhere else. It is his tragedy that he found himself articulate in such a dangerous language."
    RIP Johnny!
     
  4. Coetzeefan101

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    Johnny gave a great account of himself in this fight. And for a man with a slim frame he was actually stronger than Pintor on the inside, had him backing up for a good proportion of the fight. If Owen though used his reach and height advantage instead of trading with Pintor from the start, we might of seen a different ending to the fight.
     
  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Just rewatched Ayub Kalule title defence against the Yugoslav former amatuer star Marijan Benes, in preperation for uploading it.

    Benes had a highly unlikely style for a Soviet era schooled amatuer, being something of a combination of the Argentinian boxer-puncher style, Sung-Kil Moon and sheer textbook incompetence.other than odd upjab, he mostly favoured marching in with huge looping bombs from either hand, thrown in succession with all his bodyweight put into each punch.Either that or backing away slipping punches, with tricky improvised upperbody movement and trying to draw counters ala Galindez.Apparently he had considerable eye trouble which may have started even before this fight, and contributed to early retirement and losses against Euro 80s jr middle mainstays Louis Acaries and Luigi Minchillo in France and italy respesctively.All in all an interesting and pretty good-if massively flawed-fighter.

    The bout itself wasn't as close as i remembered it being, in fact Kalule probably won near enough every round by varying margins, though he was badly rocked in the 14th and tired(the effects of making weight were starting to show imo).It's entertaining though, and a hilarious contrast in styles at times.
     
  6. Flemo83

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    Just watched pryor vs arguello 2 for the first time, gotta be up there with the best of them!
     
  7. tommygun711

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    Ward-Gatti 1
    What a war :yikes
     
  8. sportofkings

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    Watched Lyle-Foreman recently.One of the all time great fights and both Foreman and lyle showed a lot of heart in it.Great finish by Foreman
     
  9. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How do you rate Kalule? very well respected when i was growing up, I think it was a great performance by Leonard in stopping him at that stage in his career.
     
  10. lora

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    He was a very good fighter and craftsman, just let down by a lack of power and to a lesser extent durability.At 154/160 he would be a tough obstacle for any boxer type without notable power.

    Still one of the more frequently underestimated and disrespected fighters of that era, i feel, though that may be in large part due to the Ray Leonard association.
     
  11. AlFrancis

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    Yes, that's how I felt it was at the time. Leonard not getting full credit for a great win over an unknown to the general African and Kalule not getting any credit for putting up a great fight against a great fighter at his peak
     
  12. itrymariti

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    I always thought Kalule's punching let him down for a fighter with clear intelligence and class. No snap in his shots.
     
  13. lora

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    He was a converted right hander, only fighting southpaw because as a novice that was the way he saw his older brothers do it apparently.He would probably have benefited from having a good trainer convert him back into an orthodox stance early on.

    You can see that in his right hand punches when he commits to him, especially the uppercuts from the outside and hooks to the body which do have a lot of torque and snap, but his style was heavily based around setting traps with "fake " jabs and slipping the straight left down the pipe as a lead or counter, which was obviously counter-intuitive to his most natural punches.He would never have been a natural hard puncher, but fighting orthodox would certainly have balanced out his offense much better.
     
  14. Addie

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    Gerry Penalosa vs In Joo Choo I

    Round 1: 10/9 Penalosa
    Round 2: 10/9 Choo
    Round 3: 10/10
    Round 4: 10/9 Choo
    Round 5: 10/9 Choo
    Round 6: 10/9 Penalosa
    Round 7: 10/9 Choo
    Round 8: 10/9 Choo
    Round 9: 10/9 Penalosa
    Round 10: 10/9 Penalosa
    Round 11: 10/9 Penalosa
    Round 12: 10/9 Penalosa

    6-5-1 Penalosa

    The worst title fight I have ever seen in my life. Makes Wladimir vs Ibragimov look like Barrera/Morales I.
     
  15. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yesterdays fight with Gamboa and Salido was the first time i ever agreed with Harold Lederman:shock: All these years and he finally got it right:shock: 114-110 Gamboa.