the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Jung Koo Chang vs German Torres III

This is an unheralded trilogy that deserves a little more attention.

1 a one sided beat down by Chang against an unprepared Torres
2 A close MD with a lethargic Chang vs a more confident Torres
3 Closer than the scorecards reveal! Even though Chang wins wide the rounds are hotly contested!

This is my favorite fight of the trilogy. Chang brings the intensity and pressure of fight 1 to a Torres who is not overwhelmed as much as he is just outclassed. Chang does not get appreciated for his defense and how hard it is to catch him cleanly.

Very fun fight to watch! Check it out if you have not seen it!

RBR
1 Chang
2 Chang
3 Chang
4 Torres
5 Chang
6 Chang
7 Torres
8 Chang
9 Chang
10 EVEN
11 Chang
12 Chang
Chang 118-111 on a closer fight than the card indicates! This is fun!

 

Masao Oba vs Betulio Gonzalez

I guess this can’t beat Frazier vs Ali I as FOTY, but if not for an American and HW bias, this fight is a candidate for any year. This fight is that good and fun to watch. I have heard Betulio got robbed but I don’t see it...but then again I have NO confidence in my card, and could have scored 11 even rounds they are that hard to seperate!

I had 70-67 for Oba and if I added up the ultra close rounds to even I would have the same pt difference.

Oba 1-2-4-5-7-9-13-14
Betulio 3-6-8-10-12
Even 11-15

 

Philly, I just posted this in your Gonzalez-Ohba thread.

Here is my card for Gonzalez-Ohba. 5 point must system in effect.

Round 1: 5-4 Ohba
Round 2: 5-4 Ohba
Round 3: 5-4 Gonzalez
Round 4: 5-4 Ohba
Round 5: 5-4 Ohba
Round 6: 5-4 Ohba
Round 7: 5-4 Gonzalez
Round 8: 5-4 Gonzalez
Round 9: 5-5 Even
Round 10: 5-4 Ohba
Round 11: 5-4 Gonzalez
Round 12: 5-4 Gonzalez
Round 13: 5-4 Ohba
Round 14: 5-5 Even
Round 15: 5-4 Gonzalez

Total: 69-68 Ohba

I was so impressed with Gonzalez. So sharp and so economical with his shots. I can see why he had something like 45 KOs to his credit. He didn't really solve the height and reach issue that Ohba presented until the 7th. After that he was playing catch-up and came up just shy in the scoring. What's noticeable is the complete lack of bodywork. They were head-hunting from start to finish. A really good fight and Gonzalez looked like he could have easily done another 5 rounds while Ohba was dragging that last round.

 

Miguel Canto vs Betulio Gonzalez II

Decent technical fight, lacking in fireworks although the exchanges are better during the second half of the fight.

The contrast in styles didn’t develop into what it could have and since I can’t find fights 1 and 3 I am not sure what they developed into?

Canto the defensive minded boxer mover counter puncher vs Betulio the stalker boxer puncher. To me Canto took the early part and Betulio came on late. To me Canto managed the fight better and limited the effectiveness of Betulio. Without Betulios pressure there would be no fight, but he didn’t bring it hard enough early. Gonzalez is noticeably outraged over the decision, but to me it was correct.

Not sure if the scoring system in place so I just did rounds,

Canto 2-4-5-6-7-10-12
Betulio 3-8-9-11-14-15
Even 1-13

Canto 7-6-2 in rounds

 

Vic Darchinyan vs Christian Mijares

Decent little fight to revisit. Darchynians akward style troubles Mijares right out of the gate as he scores a KD in rd 1. Mijares survives and makes rd 2 close, but is again overwhelmed in rd 3. Rd 4 has some good back and forth but Darchinyan comes on to make it close either way. Darchinyan back on the offensive in 5-6 and Mijares just can’t get into any kind of rhythm. Round 7 very close and Mijares lands his jab and goes to the body but Vic lands good late and the harder shots. 8 darchinyan back on the offensive and imposing his will. 9 darchinyan takes over completely and drops Mijares with 10 left...but he ain’t getting up! Decent fight

RBR
1-3 Darchinyan
4 Even
5-6 Darchinyan
7 Mijares
8 Darchinyan

Darchinyan KO 9 up 79-73 on my card 79-72 on all 3 judges

 

Christian Mijares vs Rafa Marquez

Somehow I have not seen this fight before and since I couldn’t remember who won it had an air of excitement typically reserved for live fights.

Rafa comes out strong but an accidental headbutt cuts Mijares and Rafa is docked a pt. I didn’t like the deduction because one it seemed an inadvertent southpaw vs orthodox head clash and it looked like Mijares was the one who stepped into it...oh well.

Rafa looks much bigger and stronger taking the fight to Mijares. Mijares eye is bothering him, but he begins to counter and take the 3rd on my card. Mijares does not look to engage in the 4th and mostly played it safe limiting action both ways. By the 6th Mijares is timing and countering better and taking more of the exchanges but all 3 rounds closely contested. Mijares hurts Rafa in 9 and after a few punches the ref halts the action...way to early of a stoppage for me? I felt Rafa deserved to fight through it....


Rounds 3-6-7-8 are very close and fun rounds to watch. Lots of back and forth ebbs and flows and momentum shifts.

RBR
1 Marquez 9-9
2 Marquez
3 Mijares
4 Marquez
5 Marquez
6 Mijares
7 Mijares
8 Mijares

Mijares TKO 9 up on my card 76-75

Marquez up on 1 card 76-75 the other 2 have it 77-74 Mijares

Fun little fight to watch especially if like me you have not seen it before.

 

Vic Darchinyan vs Glenn Donaire

One sided beat down, where Glen just does not look strong enough at this weight to even mount a solid exchange. Seems like his jaw has been broken in the 6th and he can’t continue. Goes to the cards and it is a shutout for Vic.

RBR
1-6 Darchinyan w/4 a 10-8 rd

60-53 Vic Darchinyan

 

Philly, finally sat down and took this one on. Like I said before, the first time around I felt Oscar deserved it and now with pen to paper, it's no different. And you're right, the commentary team was back and forth with some utter nonsense that I had to ignore. That said, here is my score.

Round 1: 10-9 Oscar
Round 2: 10-9 Oscar
Round 3: 10-9 Oscar
Round 4: 10-9 Oscar
Round 5: 10-9 Oscar
Round 6: 10-9 Oscar
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Shane
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Oscar
Round 12: 10-9 Shane

Total: 118-113 Oscar

I had a couple of evens in there, but the ones we disagreed on were 3, 5 and 11. But these rounds were close. I obviously felt Oscar was the victor and I think the higher poundage suited him more than when they fought at welter. Good fight.

 

Vic Darchinyan vs Nonito Donaire I

Super fun short fight to watch! Cool interview with Glenn Donaire during the fight sharing how the brothers are never nervous to fight but always nervous when their brother fights.

Darchinyan is a fun powerful southpaw that reminds me a lot of Prince Naseem. Powerful left, but open on defense trusting his chin reflexes and unorthodox approach to e difficult to hit. Nonito is big enough strong enough and quicker than Darchinyan. Rounds 2-4 are very fun with 2 & 4 being back and forth very difficult to score. 2 of the judges had it 2-2 while I agreed with the 3rd who had it 4-0. 2/4 are very close I just felt Nonaire edged those 2. The brilliant left hook of Donaire strikes in round 5 producing a TKO that is as much fun as Judah vs Tszyu.

RBR
1-4 Nonito 40-36
Nonito TKO 5

 

Nonito Donaire vs Vic Darchinyan II

6 years later, lacking in some of the excitement and explosiveness of the first encounter. Yet, filled with a lot of tension and strategy by both guys.

Darchinyan more respectful of Donaires power after the first fight is more cautious and less reckless in his charges. Donaire....meh....not sure about his approach in this one, although he got the win. Very cautious and respectful of Darchinyan’s power as well...but he does not box like the first fight? He seems to be patiently waiting to land a big shot rather than outboxing Vic like he could and did the first time. Donaire loaded up to the body in the first 4 rounds as a prelude in fight 1, this time he almost neglects the body completely. I give Vic some props for his performance in a losing effort. Nonaire was a patient stalker on his finish that reminded me a little of Trinidad in patiently methodically finishing a hurt opponent.

Good win by Donaire, but not a great performance outside of the finish.

RBR
1-3 Nito
4-8 Vic
9 TKO by Donaire while down 77-75 on my card.

 

Nonito Donaire vs Jorge Arce

It is always sad to see a warrior fall prey to Father Time. Having said that I don’t think Arce would have ever beaten Nonito. Nonito is a brilliant boxer puncher (when he boxes instead of head hunting), who would be a tough night for anyone ever. As good as Nonaire looked last night vs Young, I can’t help but wonder if Nonito is close to this type of ending in his next few fights if not his next one.

Donaire TKO 3 up 20-17 on the card.

 

Manny Pacquaio vs Medgoen Singsurat

Wow! If you told me this guy who lost would someday be an ATG I would laugh if I didn’t already know. Outside of a decent right jab, Pac looks completely amateurish against a quality Singsurat. Singsurat dominated from start to finish with a nice body shot KO in the 3rd

RBR
1 Singsurat
2 Singsurat
Singsurat by 3rd rd ko

 

Abner Mares vs Vic Darchinyan

Why no rematch? With an entertaining SD you would think they would want to settle this.

A fun little war with Mares getting cut in rd 1 by a accidental headbutt dropped in rd 2 and had a pt deducted in 4 for a low blow. Yet continues to work the body and outwork and outbox the older Darchinyan as the fight progresses. The cards are split 4 pts for each guy....but I see little case for a Darchinyan victory? 1-3-5-8-10 were all close and 4 could be 9-9 if you had mares winning that rd.

Mares impressed me battling back from early adversity to take a good fight.

RBR
1 Mares
2 Darchinyan 10-8
3 Darchinyan
4 Darchinyan 10-8
5 EVEN
6 Mares
7 Mares 10-8
8 Mares
9 Mares
10 Mares
11 Mares
12 Mares

Abner Mares SD victory by 115-111 on my card

 

Michael Carbajal vs Jorge Arce

What a retirement party for Carbajal. Carbajal lands some decent punches and wins a few exchanges but this fight Arce controlled by being busier quicker and more accurate. Very few rounds were even close. 5/7 I guess but even they were clear Arce rounds. After getting shutout for 5 rounds Carbajal drops a careless Arce. Arce back in 7-10 controlling and winning rounds, when in the 11th Michael Carbajal reminds us that....well....well, that he is Michael Carbajal! Behind 98-91 on all 3 judges cards and mine, he catches Arce good. Arce in no shape to continue and it is waved off!

Arce gets warned for low blows in 1 & 2...but lands about double digits more with no subsequent warnings....ref did a horrible job, but in the end Carbajal settled it his way.

One of the great comebacks from a one sided schooling up till that point.

RBR
1-5 Arce
6 Carbajal 10-8
7-10 Arce
11 TKO by Carbajal.

Arce literally did everything better than Carbajal.....well,....except take a punch....and in boxing that can be a pretty big thing.

 

Ricardo Lopez vs Hideyuki Ohashi

Lopez in his first world title fight, is already a polished pro. He fights a very smart fight with great defense seldom getting hit at all, while scoring some nice exchanges of his own. Lopez lands a jab followed by a straight right in rd 4 that drops Ohashi. In round 5 he drops him twice and the second time Ohashi stumbles and falls into the ropes the ref waves it off.

Lopez 40-35 TKO 5