the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Andre Berto vs Victor Ortiz II

    Round 1: 10-9 Ortiz
    Round 2: 10-8 Ortiz
    Round 3: 10-9 Ortiz
    Round 4: KO

    My Score: (30-26 Ortiz) ATOS

     
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    Has anyone here checked out the Marco Antonio Barrera v Juan Manuel Marquez fight? OMG! Great fight but what a toughie to score. I always said my toughest was the Antonio Cervantes v Wilfredo Benitez 15 rounder due to subtle shifts with those two artists. But this was a slam-bang war that was equally frustrating, maybe moreso. Get ready for a head scratcher.

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 3: 10-9 Marquez
    Round 4: 10-9 Marquez
    Round 5: 10-10 Even
    Round 6: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 7: 10-8 Marquez (Marquez had a great round, but right at the end was dropped by a smoking right hand and then really purposely nailed Marquez on the canvas - Jay Nady amazingly ruled the KD a slip and then quite rightly docks Barrera a point)
    Round 8: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Marquez
    Round 11: 10-9 Marquez
    Round 12: 10-10 Even

    Total: 117-114 Marquez

    Arghhh! Tissue paper-close rounds made this war infuriating to score. Actual scores were 118-109 and 116-111 (twice) all for Marquez does not reflect how tight this fight was. I hated to have so many evens, but this was incredibly tight. Barrera's counters were great but Marquez won it for me on aggression. But to tell you the truth, I can see someone scoring this for Barrera too. A word to the wise if watching, the HBO team are real Barrera cheerleaders. So, a grain of salt when listening.
     
  3. George Crowcroft

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    How about Pintor/Zarate or Gavalin/Graham? Both very very hard to score imo.
     
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    Manny Pacquiao vs Antonio Margarito

    Rd. Pac : Marg (Total)
    1. 10 : 9
    2. 10 : 9
    3. 10 : 9
    4. 10 : 8
    5. 10 : 9
    6. 10 : 9
    7. 10 : 9
    8. 10 : 9
    9. 10 : 9
    10. 10 : 9
    11. 10 : 9
    12. 10 : 9 (120-107)

    Pacquiao wins a UD.

    Round by Round
    Jesus **** this was bad. Look at his eye!
    The guy was 17lbs lighter on fight night and shut him out, broke his face and won his 8th title.

    Pacquiao was an excellent fighter, obviously. But he's still underrated imo. In this fight he showed he could box well, very good lineal and lateral footwork, excellent counter punching ability and good use of the ropes. His defence is also solid and undersold, he had good head-movement and blocks with his elbows and gloves.
     
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  5. rorschach51

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    Vasyl Lomachenko vs Gamalier Rodriguez

    Round 1: 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 2: 10-9 Lomachenko
    Round 3: 10-9 Lomachenko
    Round 4: 10-9 Lomachenko
    Round 5: 10-8 Lomachenko
    Round 6: 10-9 Lomachenko
    Round 7: 10-8 Lomachenko
    Round 8: 10-8 Lomachenko
    Round 9: KO

    My Score: (79-70 Lomachenko) ATOS

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    Callum Smith UD12 John Ryder

    Ryder slips Smith's very first jab beautifully, so he has that skill. He's much, much smaller though so he'll need to. Deep stance from the smaller man, looking to hold his ground. Not active enough when he closes the distance though with Smith just covering up. An even first round under any civilised scoring system, but i'll give it to Ryder on the generalship. Smith sneaked the second with a body shot I think. It's intriguing, poised. He takes the third clearly, looks to have found his range, and started to time his lateral movement.

    I've Smith 4-2 up after six. It's absorbing stuff. Ryder has succeeded in dictating the terms, waiting on then cornering Smith but Smith is still getting the cleaner work done including one blistering right hand in the sixth.

    I have them even after eight. Ryder stole the eighth with the very last punch of the round - it's that kind of fight. Ryder is so disciplined with his waiting, he waits and waits until the time is right. It's very very hard to win a fight that way but he's doing just enough, barely, to keep himself right in this contest. Ninth feels like a big, big round.

    It's a clean one for Smith. That's the difference, that little bit of quality. He's winning his rounds cleaner as a general rule and doing the cleaner punching, too. So if Smith wins one more round he can't be beaten on my card. He's also cried uncle on contesting the inside with Ryder, doing his fair share of clutching when Ryder gets close having spent the first half of the fight trying to match him there.

    Smith takes the ten close and Ryder takes the eleventh wide - that makes it all down to the twelfth. Interesting to see Smith in this round swining aggressively from way back and missing. He lost his head a little in this round while Ryder kept fighting to the metronome. Big, big round for the smaller man and it's going to make for a fascinating twelfth.

    Ryder comes out as he did in the eleventh, Smith is looking for very hard punches only it seems - back to the jab though after forty seconds, where he should be. Ryder won't let him be though and again they find themselves on the ropes, a physical contest where first one then the other tries to walk his man back.

    Ryder edges the twelfth, so it's a draw on my scorecard, BUT, no problem with the Smith win. I gave the first, fifth, eighth and twelfth to Ryder but close...I gave the second and tenth to Smith but close. So Ryder bagged more close rounds. Absolutely not a robbery.

    Ryder:1,5,7,8,11,12
    Smith: 2,3,4,6,9,10,
     
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    Kuniaki Shibata vs Raul Cruz

    Shibata - Cruz

    R1: KO!

    An explosive blitzkrieg after observing Crux for 2 odd minutes. Brilliant movement and explosive punching as always from Shibata. What a 1 hitter-quitter at the end! Shibata rising up my favorites list; what a brilliant and aesthetic style.


     
  8. rorschach51

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    Jean Pascal vs Badou Jack

    Round 1: 10-9 Pascal
    Round 2: 10-9 Pascal
    Round 3: 10-9 Pascal
    Round 4: 10-8 Pascal
    Round 5: 10-9 Pascal
    Round 6: 10-9 Jack
    Round 7: 10-9 Pascal
    Round 8: 10-9 Jack
    Round 9: 10-9 Jack
    Round 10: 10-9 Pascal (close)
    Round 11: 10-9 Jack
    Round 12: 10-8 Jack

    My Score: (114-112 Pascal)

    Great fun fight where I felt the right man won. This certainly was not a bad decision like Jack/TMT fans would have you believe. I like Badou Jack too, but the official winner was more than fair. You can't take a title off the seated champion by giving away the first half of the fight unless you get the stoppage.
     
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    Marvin Johnson vs Jean Marie Emebe

    WARRR JOHNSON! Seriously, Marvin Johnson is my second favourite fighter of all time. Non stop action, a great bloke, southpaw LHW and an air of "oh **** that power punch might come back to haunt him. Oh there's another one." about him that makes watching fights I've seen loads electric. Marvin the Midget was a baddddd man! The Little Light Heavy took the fight to his huge foe and beat him bad for trying to take his title. The Supposed Super-Middleweight Southpaw saw his shot and slaughtered JME.

    Anyways, at least the atrocious alteration is over, alas on to the ****ing fight... ;)

    Veteran Marvin Johnson takes on hard hitting for his WBA title, and would be the only time he ever defended his title, God knows he wasn't letting it go. In a 13 round classic, there were a few rounds incomplete so I didn't score it, but the general patterns I saw whilst attempting to was that the key factor to winning rounds was between Johnson's workrate and Emebe's counters.

    Notes - Johnson has an underrated, eratic defence. Emebe was a tough mutha****er. Johnson had a massive heart fought someone who supposedly didn't give 2 ****s about boxing.


    Definitely worth a watch!
     
  10. rorschach51

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    Tyson Fury vs Christian Hammer

    Round 1: 10-9 Fury
    Round 2: 10-9 Fury
    Round 3: 10-9 Fury
    Round 4: 10-9 Fury
    Round 5: 10-8 Fury
    Round 6: 10-9 Fury
    Round 7: 10-9 Fury
    Round 8: 10-9 Fury RTD

    My Score: (80-71 Fury) ATOS

     
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    Giovanni De Carolis vs. Tyron Zeuge I

    Round 1: 10-9 Zeuge
    Round 2: 10-9 De Carolis (close)
    Round 3: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 4: 10-9 Zeuge (close)
    Round 5: 10-9 Zeuge (close)
    Round 6: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 7: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 8: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 9: 10-9 Zeuge
    Round 10: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 11: 10-9 De Carolis
    Round 12: 10-9 Zeuge

    My Score: (115-113 De Carolis)


    Official Scores: (114-114 x 2) (115-114 Zeuge) Majority Draw


     
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    Jack Catterall vs Tom Stalker

    Round 1: 10-8 Catterall
    Round 2: 10-8 Catterall
    Round 3: 10-9 Catterall
    Round 4: 10-9 Catterall
    Round 5: 10-9 Stalker
    Round 6: 10-9 Catterall
    Round 7: 10-9 Catterall (close)
    Round 8: TKO

    My Score: (69-62 Catterall) ATOS

     
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    Stuart Hall vs. Vusi Malinga

    Round 1: 10-9 Hall (close)
    Round 2: 10-9 Hall
    Round 3: 10-8 Hall (knockdown)
    Round 4: 10-9 Hall
    Round 5: 10-9 Hall (close)
    Round 6: 10-9 Malinga
    Round 7: 10-9 Malinga
    Round 8: 10-9 Hall (close)
    Round 9: 10-9 Malinga
    Round 10: 10-9 Malinga (close)
    Round 11: 10-9 Malinga (close)
    Round 12: 10-9 Hall (big)

    My Score: (115-112 Hall) 116-111 Hall would be fine as well.



    Official Scores: (117-110 x 2 Hall) (116-111 Hall)

    What a career defining performance for Stuey Hall! A man that didn't start the pro game until the age of 28, taking the hard road fighting Britain's best Bantam's & Super Bantam's on the way up. At the age of 34 pulls a amazing fight out of himself like that against a tough opponent to win the World Bantamweight Championship. I get goosebumps everytime I watch it.
     
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    Stuart Hall is a ****ing legend. He reminds me of an old piece of bark. My dad loved him lol. Glad to see he still gets his dues.
     
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    George Foreman vs Shannon Briggs

    Round 1: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 2: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 3: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 4: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 5: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 6: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 7: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 8: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 9: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 10: 10-9 Briggs
    Round 11: 10-9 Foreman
    Round 12: 10-9 Foreman

    My Score: (116-112 Foreman)



    Official Scores: (117-113 Briggs) (116-112 Briggs) (114-114 Draw)

    How the judges got this one so wrong I'll never know. Literally the only people in the world that saw this as a close fight or a Briggs victory.