the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, what is the name of Francis' book?
     
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  2. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    Shane Mosley v Oscar De La Hoya 1

    Maybe not a great fight, but certainly a very good one. Lots of clean exchanges that elevate it above the tactical chess match it could have become.

    I had Mosley by 4 points as he swept the second half of the fight on my card but there were some close rounds in there. But in round 12 they both let it all out and Mosley closed the show in style.

    1 10-9
    2 10-9 (close)
    3 9-10
    4 9-10 (close)
    5 9-10
    6 9-10
    7 10-9
    8 10-9
    9 10-9 (close)
    10 10-9
    11 10-9
    12 10-9

    Mosley 116-112 De La Hoya
     
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  3. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trainer of Champions.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks, Al.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

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    Brewster vs Liakahovich

    Rd. Brew : Liak (Total)
    1. 9 : 10
    2. 10 : 9
    3. 9 : 10
    4. 9 : 10
    5. 10 : 9 (47-48)
    6. 9 : 10
    7. 10 : 8
    8. 9 : 10
    9. 9 : 10
    10. 9 : 10 (93-96)
    11. 9 : 10
    12. 10 : 10 (112-116)

    Liakahovich wins a 12 round UD.

    Good fight, lots of momentum shifts, doesn't get mentioned much. Tbh, my only complaints are that this fight was for a top 3 HW placement and both are pretty much plodding puddings and it was a little one sided.
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    James Toney vs Vasily Jirov

    Rd. Toney : Jirov
    1. 10 : 9 (10-9)
    2. 9 : 10 (19-19)
    3. 10 : 9 (29-28)
    4. 10 : 9 (39-37)
    5. 10 : 9 (49-46)
    6. 9 : 10 (58-56)
    7. 9 : 10 (67-66)
    8. 9 : 10[-1] (76-75)
    9. 9 : 10 (85-85)
    10. 10 : 10 (95-95)
    11. 9 : 10 (104-105)
    12. 10 : 8 (114-113)

    Toney wins a 12 round UD.

    Last time I had it a draw, this time for Toney. Good fight. Jirov was a ****
     
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  7. rorschach51

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    Joe Louis vs Arturo Godoy I (February 9, 1949) (15 Rounds for the Heavyweight Championship of the World)

    Round 1: 10-9 Louis
    Round 2: 10-9 Godoy
    Round 3: 10-9 Godoy
    Round 4: 10-9 Godoy
    Round 5: 10-9 Louis (close)
    Round 6: 10-9 Louis (close)
    Round 7: 10-9 Louis
    Round 8: 10-9 Godoy
    Round 9: 10-9 Godoy (close)
    Round 10: 10-9 Louis
    Round 11: 10-9 Louis
    Round 12: 10-9 Louis
    Round 13: 10-9 Louis
    Round 14: 10-9 Louis
    Round 15: 10-9 Louis

    My Score: (145-140 Louis)

    Official Scores: (10-5 Louis) (10-5 Godoy) (10-4-1 Louis) Winner by Split Decision to retain the Heavyweight Championship of the World, Joe Louis.



    Decent fight, Godoy's main offense was charging with the crown of his head, butting, clinching, wrestling, with sporadic punches here and there. Louis did not have a easy time with him in their first fight here. Joe made the adjustment in the 5th round to let his hands go when Arturo would charge in with his head down, but he had a much easier time when he started leading with the uppercut this round. By the 7th Godoy was dipping & ducking down almost into a complete squat which is suppose to be illegal to bend below waist level, but like the constant use of his head he got away with it. Was Godoy hearing impaired? Because he almost never stopped throwing/fighting at the bell, and had to physically separated between almost every round. At any rate Art Donovan was crap on this night as a ref, he never said 1 word about the constant leading with Godoy's head or bending below the waist and even grabbing the bottom rope while ducking to balance himself from bending so low.
     
  8. Jel

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    I think this was 1940, not 1949. Will give it a watch - you're inspiring me with all these Louis fights!
     
  9. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft The Cobra Will Always Bite Back... Full Member

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    Louis is a beast. The most technically gifted HW ever imo. Huge heart as well.
     
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  10. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    It was you are correct, a slip of my fingers sorry lol. I'm going through the 1970's and older vault at Eye On The Ring. 1937-194? is mainly Henry Armstrong & Joe Louis cards available to score.
     
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  11. zadfrak

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    Lots of digging deep in the fight. Seems like about 8 rounds had 1 or the other being hurt. Brewster had lost those legs though and just could not move much to pressure him.

    And it was interesting that so much credit was given to Liakahovich for that body punishment. He looked like Norton in there landing all those hard right hands to the body. Also a nice thing with the bout was the really good announcing job by Bernstein.
    so often all we get are cheerleaders and shills for the house fighter.

    When it happened, I kept thinking Brewster was going to land a big left hook on the guy late and get a brutal ko like the Krasniqi fight. Didn't happen but there were openings for sure.

    Brewster claimed he could not get the rematch clause enforced and could not get his rematch---and the fight was excellent for a rematch. The big mistake the Liakahovich camp made---and you seldom see it---is fighting another hitter in his next bout after such a physically demanding and tough bout. Managers learned that a long long time ago and what you almost always see is a non--hitter and no cutie pies or spoilers or hitters as that next bout. I don't think Briggs is the top of the food chain but the guy can hit. Very very surprised they took the fight and there were other options. But those 2 fights in succession ruined Liakahovich.
     
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  12. scartissue

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    Tim Witherspoon v Carl 'The Truth' Williams

    I saw this fight discussed on another site and I became intrigued with this and had to check it out, as I missed it for some reason back in '91. I checked our history here and amazingly, we've never discussed this fight. Here we go.

    Round 1: 10-9 Williams
    Round 2: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 3: 10-10 Even
    Round 4: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 5: 10-9 Williams
    Round 6" 10-9 Williams
    Round 7: 10-9 Williams
    Round 8: 10-9 Williams
    Round 9: 10-9 Williams
    Round 10: 10-10 Even
    Round 11: 10-9 Witherspoon
    Round 12: 10-9 Williams

    Total: 117-113 Williams

    Actual scores were 116-112 for Williams and two scores of 115-113 for Witherspoon, which I simply cannot make a case for even if I was bending over backwards for Tim. Williams should have felt bummed on this one because he was robbed IMO. I feel the decision was controversial enough to throw it out there to you guys.
     
  13. rorschach51

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    Joe Louis vs Arturo Godoy II (June 20, 1940) (15 Rounds for the World Heavyweight Championship)

    Round 1: 10-9 Louis (unlike the first fight Joe came out firing even in the clinch. Godoy same as the first fight hits Louis with a hook almost from behind after the bell had rang to end the round)

    Round 2: 10-9 Louis (Joe pulls out the lead uppercut this round, which took him till round 5 last time around, the ref had to once again jump in at the bell to make sure Godoy didn't continue swinging)

    Round 3: 10-9 Louis (close, there was so much smothering done this round not much of anything got done from either man. Joe landed better of what actually landed)

    Round 4: 10-9 Louis (close, give and take round, the Louis uppercut edges the round for me)

    Round 5: 10-9 Louis (more of the same)

    Round 6: 10-9 Louis (Joe finally decides to move a little and use the jab to keep Godoy from simply barrling in with the crown of his head, good round for Louis)

    Round 7: 10-8 Louis (Joe finally has enough and keeps throwing at a distance picking off Godoy over and over with crashing uppercuts & hooks until he collapses to the canvas. Godoy takes a short count and then springs up and looks to charge right after Joe with a murderous look on his face. I think Godoy might have been crazy)

    Round 8: TKO Louis (Joe drops him two more times in this round with the ref waiving the fight off the second time. As has been the case throughout both their fights Godoy ignores the fight being waived off and looks to charge after Louis again, this time dragging the ref who has a hold of one of his arms and his own cornermen with him trying to free his arms to get at Joe. A police officer even came into the ring to try to subdue Godoy right at Joe's corner as Louis & his own cornermen went to work taking Joe's gloves off. What a wild man)

    My Score: (70-62 Louis) ATOS

     
  14. rorschach51

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    Joe Louis vs Buddy Baer I

    Round 1: 10-8 Baer
    Round 2: 10-9 Louis
    Round 3: 10-9 Louis
    Round 4: 10-9 Louis
    Round 5: 10-9 Louis
    Round 6: 10-6 Louis
    Round 7: DQ Louis

    My Score: (58-52 Louis) ATOS



    Good fight, I'm on my phone again. Old man no text.
     
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    Joe Louis vs Billy Conn I

    Round 1: 10-9 Conn (close)
    Round 2: 10-9 Louis
    Round 3: 10-9 Conn
    Round 4: 10-9 Conn (close)
    Round 5: 10-9 Louis
    Round 6: 10-9 Louis
    Round 7: 10-9 Conn
    Round 8: 10-9 Conn
    Round 9: 10-9 Conn
    Round 10: 10-9 Louis (close)
    Round 11: 10-9 Conn
    Round 12: 10-9 Conn
    Round 13: KO Louis

    My Score: (116-112 Conn) ATOS

     
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