the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    Joe Louis vs Billy Conn II

    Round 1: 10-9 Conn
    Round 2: 10-9 Conn
    Round 3: 10-9 Louis
    Round 4: 10-9 Louis
    Round 5: 10-9 Louis
    Round 6: 10-9 Louis (close)
    Round 7: 10-9 Louis
    Round 8: KO Louis

    My Score: (68-65 Louis) ATOS

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    Joe Louis vs Jersey Joe Walcott I (December 5, 1947) (15 Rounds for the World Heavyweight Championship)

    Round 1: 10-8 Walcott (Knockdown)
    Round 2: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 3: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 4: 10-8 Walcott (Knockdown)
    Round 5: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 6: 10-9 Louis
    Round 7: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 8: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 9: 10-9 Louis
    Round 10: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 11: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 12: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 13: 10-9 Louis
    Round 14: 10-9 Walcott
    Round 15: 10-9 Walcott

    My Score: (147-136 Walcott)
    Official Scores: (9-6 Louis) (7-6-2 Walcott) (8-6-1 Louis)

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    This was a comprehensive schooling by Walcott. My score of 12-3 Walcott was the worst he did, anywhere from 13-2 too 14-1 Walcott would not be far fetched. A disgusting miscarriage of justice of the highest order this was to the point where 72+ years after the fact and I still feel sick to my stomach for how the done Jersey everytime I watch this.
     
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    Rocky Graziano vs Tony Zale III (June 10, 1948) (15 Rounds for the Middleweight Championship of the World)

    Round 1: 10-8 Zale (all out action, Zale the sharper of the 2 too start catches Graziano with a leaping smashing lefy hook that puts the Middleweight Champion on the canvas. Rocky tries to turn up the heat, but continues to come up short and eats blistering leather from the former champion/Man of Steel)

    Round 2: Graziano (close, the round starts out at a calm pace by both men flicking out the respective jabs either falling short or just catching target on the end. The action picks up at about the minute mark with both men landing their big hooks, trading back & forth power shots, Rocky appears to hurt Zale and swings for the fences with Zale surviving in the corner)

    Round 3: KO Zale (Both men come out looking to end this one early, Zale catches Rocky with a wicked left hook that has Graziano reeling but he somehow manages to stay on his feet with help from the ropes as Tony batters him with vicious blows. Zale catches Rocky with a thunder bolt of a left hook that puts Rocky down for the count of 8. Rocky hurt bad tries to survive but gets caught with another hook that turns Graziano's lights completely out. He doesn't move a muscle for the full 10 count, and Tony Zale becomes the 3rd man ever to regain the Middleweight Championship of the World.

    My Score: (19-18 Zale) ATOS

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    Awesome slugfest for as long as it lasted, it's truly a shame their first 2 fights cannot be found on the internet anywhere. The Man of Steel wins the 3 fight series 2-1, with all 3 fights ending by knockout in the 6th, 6th, & 3rd rounds respectively.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    How've you managed to get 15 rounds from an 18 minute vid? I swear there was never the full fight on YouTube
     
  5. rorschach51

    rorschach51 A Legend & A Gentleman Full Member

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    It showed at least some of every round, I just scored what was available from every round.
     
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  6. The Slaps

    The Slaps Win or lose, as long as you get the decision Full Member

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    Chris Byrd vs Andrew Golota
    17/04/04 in Madison Square Garden, New York, USA for 12 rounds.
    World Heavyweight Championship (IBF title)
    Byrd 37-2-0(20) 6'1.5, 210.5 lbs, 74".
    Golota 38-4-0(31) 6'4, 237.5 lbs, 79".

    Round 1: 9-10 (close)
    Round 2: 10-9 (close)
    Round 3: 9-10 (close)
    Round 4: 9-10
    Round 5: 9-10
    Round 6: 9-10 (close)
    Round 7: 10-9 (close)
    Round 8: 10-9
    Round 9: 9-10 (close)
    Round 10: 10-9 (close)
    Round 11: 10-9
    Round 12: 9-10 (close)
    113-115 Golota. I felt Golota was landing a lot of shots early on in the fight, later Byrd was avoiding and making him miss, but didn't do enough himself in some of the rounds. Very tough fight to judge could go either way. Great fight, pity we never got the rematch.

    Official score 113-115/115-113/114-114 Draw.
     
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  7. Henry Hank

    Henry Hank Mexicans Run Houston Full Member

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    This clown is scoring thirty second rounds and sometimes even less and make it look like his scorecard is legit.

    "Anywhere from 13-2 too 14-1 Walcott" LMAO....

    (With a Don King Voice ) ONLY ON ESB.
     
  8. The Slaps

    The Slaps Win or lose, as long as you get the decision Full Member

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    Pinklon Thomas vs Trevor Berbick
    22/03/86 in Riviera Hotel, Las Vegas, USA.
    World Heavyweight Championship (WBC Title)
    Thomas 26/0/1(21) 6'3, 223 lbs, 77"
    Berbick 30/4/1(23) 6'2.5, 218.5 lbs, 78"

    Round 1: 10-9
    Round 2: 10-9
    Round 3: 10-9
    Round 4: 9-10 (close)
    Round 5: 10-9
    Round 6: 9-10
    Round 7: 10-9
    Round 8: 9-10 (close)
    Round 9: 9-10
    Round 10: 9-10
    Round 11: 10-9
    Round 12: 10-9
    115-113 Thomas. Not a bad fight the first time I watched it, Thomas for me was more clinical with his punching, while Berbick was hitting a lot of arms and elbows early on eapecially, Thomas was doing well defensively until he got exhausted, but recovered very well in the end. Looked like Berbick was going to knock him out in the later rounds. My result went against all the judges and the commentators and the punch stats but no way was Berbick landing many shots early on Thomas was blocking them. I would love to see what others think and was I watching this with blinkers on.

    Official score 113-115, 113-115, 114-115
    Berbick.
     
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  9. roughdiamond

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    John Duddy vs 'Yuri Boy' Campas

    Amazing fight recommended by my brother.

    Duddy - Campas

    R1: 10 - 9
    Electric opener! Skilled exchanges.
    R2: 9 - 10
    Thrilling round. Both men hurt.
    R3: 9 - 10
    Very close round. I though Campas edged it. Love Campas' subtle skills.
    R4: 10 - 9
    Great fight - awesome skills again from both. Inside work, counters.
    R5: 9 - 10
    Tit-for-tat! I think Campas just edged it with his effective body work and rights.
    R6: 9 - 10
    Inside war - favouring Campas
    R7: 10 - 9
    Duddy boxing well at mid-range.
    R8: 10 - 9
    Swing 'till last 10! Campas hurt! Score totally even at the moment.
    R9: 10 - 9
    Duddy second wind! Amazing round; Campas showing heart as he is lit up.
    R10: 10 - 9
    'Slower round'. Close 'till end.
    R11: 10 - 9
    Both pushing their limit now.
    R12: 9 - 10
    One of the best finales I've ever seen!

    TOTAL: 115 - 113 DUDDY

    Notes:
    • Amazing fight - one of the best I've ever seen. Thanks bro!
    • Campas punching the ref lol.
    • Great skills from both. Loved Campas' subtle pressure and inside work.
    • Scorecards too harsh on Campas.
    • Duddy a handsome ****er lol. In movies now, last I heard.
    • Great fight that all of the resident scorers should watch, if they have not done so already!


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  10. Jel

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    Sugar Ray Leonard v Tommy Hearns 1

    'And now, for my next one, I'd like to return to the classics'. It's good every now and again to rewatch a famous, classic fight and they don't get much more famous and classic than this one.

    It's a fight in four acts with continuing changes in momentum.
    -Act 1 (Rounds 1-5): Leonard wary of Hearns' power, sticks and moves for the first couple of rounds before moving into range and trading for a couple of rounds before he returns to stick and move. Hearns wins Act 1.
    -Act 2 (Rounds 6-7): Leonard hurts Hearns and looks to finish him. Leonard wins Act 2.
    -Act 3 (Rounds 8-12): Leonard is now the stalker but Hearns is boxing well off the back foot and picking off Ray's attacks which are losing momentum. Hearns becomes more confident and starts to trade and hold his ground. Hearns wins Act 3 big.
    -Act 4 (Rounds 13-14): Spurred on by Dundee's famous rallying plea after the 12th, Leonard lands the big shot he's been looking for for 5 rounds and puts Hearns on rubbery legs again before finishing the job in the next round. Leonard wins Act 4 and the fight.

    I don't think I've ever actively scored it before but my card feels about right. Here's my round-by-round:
    1 9-10
    2 10-9
    3 9-10 (good round)
    4 9-10 (good action again)
    5 9-10
    6 10-9 (big round for Leonard - could have conceivably been a 10-8 but not quite)
    7 10-9 (another big one for Sugar Ray)
    8 10-9 (tricky round to score. Hearns boxing well on back foot, but Leonard still gets through with some telling shots. Could have gone to Tommy)
    9 9-10 (perfect stick and move strategy from Tommy - a clear win)
    10 9-10 (closer round than the previous one but Hearns edged it)
    11 9-10 (another good round for Hearns)
    12 9-10 (Tommy is confident now and off the back foot; 'You're blowing it, son, you're blowing it!')
    13 10-8 (Not now he isn't! Huge comeback from Sugar Ray)
    (122-124)
    14 SRL TKO Hearns
     
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  11. rorschach51

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    Good score brother, if I remember correctly I had Hearns a tad wider at the stoppage.
     
  12. Jel

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    Great recommendation @roughdiamond!

    John Duddy v Yori Boy Campas

    1 10-9
    2 9-10
    3 10-9 (close)
    4 10-9 (another close one)
    5 9-10
    6 9-10 (close)
    7 10-9
    8 10-9 (Campas wobbled a bit)
    9 10-9 (big round for Duddy; Campas is tiring)
    10 10-9 (better round from Campas but Duddy edged it)
    11 10-9
    12 9-10 (amazing final round!)

    Duddy 116-112 Campas

    Duddy won this I think but a couple of rounds early on could have gone to Campus that I gave to Duddy, which would have made it super close on my card. But that final round! Not sure where Yori Boy got that energy from. Duddy won this because he was the younger, fresher fighter. Take 5 years off Campas and he'd have won in my view. Great little fight this.
     
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  13. roughdiamond

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    Kazuto Ioka vs Akira Yaegashi

    Ioka - Yaegashi

    R1: 10 - 9
    A tense opener. Ioka with some well timed counters.
    R2: 9 - 10
    Yaegashi forcing the issue. Left hooks and bodywork.
    R3: 10 - 9
    A very close round. Ioka more effective.
    R4: 10 - 9
    Close again. Ioka effective with clear shots.
    R5: 9 - 10
    Yaegashi great work here. His eyes are ****ed, however.
    R6: 10 - 9
    JUST gave this to Ioka. Skilled action.
    R7: 9 - 10
    Akira doing better in exchanges, landing rights and hooks.
    R8: 10 - 9
    Ioka landing some pinpoint shots.
    R9: 10 - 9
    Open scoring. Ioka stealing the round.
    R10: 9 - 10
    Getting very nasty, Yaegashi landing some serious leather
    R11: 10 - 10
    Very close. Probably leans to Ioka, honestly.
    R12: 9 - 10
    Great, great finale. Warriors.

    TOTAL: 115 - 114 IOKA

    Notes:
    • Damn, Katsuya Onizuka has a big beard now lol. Different from his 90's Boxing heyday (which I definitely advise you check out, wars!).
    • Joe and Yakushiji in the crowd, alongside other big Boxing names. Seemed a big event - first all Japanese unification.
    • Ioka is consistently leading with his head and sometimes his elbows, too. Should have definitely had a warning and a point took from him.
     
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  14. scartissue

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    Several weeks back I scored the first fight between Jeff Chandler and Oscar Muniz and now I wanted to re-watch the rematch. Man, you're rarely going to see another fight like this. Fast, hard and clean punches by both combatants at an incredible rate with both fighters showing a ton of heart. Here we go with the title on the line.

    Round 1: 10-9 Chandler
    Round 2: 10-9 Chandler (Chandler got rocked towards the end of the round but I felt he still did enough)
    Round 3: 10-9 Muniz
    Round 4: 10-9 Muniz
    Round 5: 10-9 Muniz
    Round 6: 10-9 Chandler
    Round 7: Fight is stopped due to cuts in Chandler's favor

    Total (through 6 completed rounds): 57-57 Even

    Actual scores were 58-56 (twice) and 59-56 all for Chandler. So many close rounds I can see everyone with a different score. This fight really annoyed me. Not from it taking place, but because of what Muniz went through from the WBA and WBC for that matter. The only reason he got this title fight was because he beat Chandler in a hastily-made non-title fight, which he won. He had a record of 35-3 against stiff competition and neither organization would even rate him in their top ten. They were too concerned with rating inept fighters from cash-cow countries. Wait until you see Muniz fighting and you'll say to yourself, "How was this guy unrated?"
     
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    Masao Ohba vs Betulio Gonzalez

    Ohba - Gonzalez

    R1: 10 - 9
    A shifty, skilled round. Ohba winning off the lead.
    R2: 10 - 9
    Gonzalez moving well; not doing enough to win.
    R3: 10 - 9
    Ohba working the lead well, though he was countered.
    R4: 10 - 9
    Ohba working, working that great lead combo.
    R5: 9 - 10
    Tight round. I just favoured Betulio.
    R6: 10 - 9
    Ohba controlling distance masterfully. Great skill from both.
    R7: 10 - 9
    Ohba getting caught more now, but worked to win the round.
    R8: 10 - 10
    Ohba countered hard, but he wroked to well to 'lose'.
    R9: 10 - 9
    Ohba taking it off work despite equal skill..
    R10: 9 - 10
    Awesome round!
    R11: 10 - 9
    Ohba landing sneaky shots and body punches. Gonzalez coming on late now.
    R12: 9 - 10
    Tight round. Fighting in close now.
    R13: 9 - 10
    Some hell for leather here. Another tight one.
    R14: 9 - 10
    Betulio landing some jolting shots.
    R15: 9 - 10
    Awesome finale. Both exchanging. Betulio pushing Ohba around.

    TOTAL: 144 - 142 OHBA

    Notes:
    • A great, skilled battle between two great fighters. Deserved the re-watch.
    • Gonzalez such a brilliant, underrated great. Shows some awesome movement and ultiple looks here, before he became more of an 'iron man'.
    • Ohba has one of the best leads you can see in Boxing, especially lower classes.
    • Ohba was open to a left hooker, definitely.
     
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