the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    Fun fight, yeah? Or -yeah? That is negative yeah by the way
     
  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was a decent fight. Like I said, pure heart from both fighters.
     
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George, I got to this one this morning. Here is how I had it:

    Round 1: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 2: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 3: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Johnson
    Round 6: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 7: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 8: 10-9 Gonzalez
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Johnson

    Total: 96-96 Draw

    Actual scores were 98-92 and 96-94 for Gonzalez and the third official had it 95-95 Even. When Johnson could keep Gonzalez inside he dominated, but when Gonzalez could stay on the outside he was keeping Johnson on the end of his punches, but neither fighter was looking to keep a fight plan in their head. They wanted a donnybrook and that's what it was. Changing fortunes constantly and some real flip-of-the-coin rounds. We differed on a number of rounds but that is how tight some of these rounds were. Good fight.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

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    An ATG took to the brink by an elite southpaw technician. One of the many technical brawls Toney was involved in.

    Rd. James : Reggie
    1. 9 : 10
    2. 8 : 10
    3. 9 : 10
    4. 9 : 10 (35-40)
    5. 9 : 10
    6. 10 : 9
    7. 10 : 9
    8. 10 : 9 (74-77)
    9. 9 : 10
    10. 10 : 9
    11. 10 : 9
    12. 10 : 9 (
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    Toney wins a 12 round SD.

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    Brilliant fight. Really fun technical match up. Toney was caught cold imo by an awesome punch but he managed to get Johnson to respect him to the point where he wasn't working enough. If it's not better than Toney-McCallum, it's certainly close to it.

    Toney would've always had massive issues with southpaws imo, especially slick ones. Nunn, Reggie and Jirov showed this. Either way, he found a way to win in all of them.

    @escudo
     
  5. Mario040481

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    This was likely scored to death by you guys but, if anyone cares to do so ever again, here's about as HD a version you'll ever find, without any commentary, just the normal sounds of a fight
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Here's the official site RBR thread for it, should you want to peruse how folks on here (including myself;
    116-112 GGG
    scored it. :thumbsup:

    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/hbo-ppv-gennady-gennadyevich-golovkin-vs-santos-saúl-Álvarez-barragán-ii-rbr.614836/
     
  7. George Crowcroft

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    Rd. Durán : DeJesus
    1. 8 : 10
    2. 10 : 9
    3. 10 : 9
    4. 10 : 9
    5. 10 : 9 (48-46)
    6. 10 : 9
    7. 10 : 8
    8. 10 : 9
    9. 10 : 9
    10. 10 : 9 (
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    Durán wins by 11th round KO.

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    Did anybody else have this this wide?

    DeJesus showing tough-man qualities, good skills too. His counter left and footwork served him well early on.

    Durán showed his physical dominace over a very good, prime operator. Durán's hand speed, chin, power, engine and range management was awesome in this one. Given that he was only 20 years old, his skills were already brilliant here, but of course they'd pick up throughout his title reign. Durán's plan was clearly to break DeJesus, both mentally and physically, with intimidation and body shots. Worked for him too.

    You have to admire Durán's fighting spirit, there was a point in the first after he got up from the KD and snarled with an air of "come on then!" And again in the third where DeJesus and him were trading he just grinned and got to work after eating a couple big shots.
     
  8. Jel

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    I've never scored it but he was winning clearly before he stopped DeJesus as I remember it. May rewatch this this week and score it this time.

    One (minor) correction - Duran was 22 when the fight took place. But, yeah, he was already an awesome fighter and a better one than two years earlier when he won the title.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    George, admittedly, I haven't seen or scored it since it was aired live in '74. I was a big fan of DeJesus back then and was really keen on him repeating over Duran. But even being very partial to DeJesus, I too gave him only the first round. So i think you're on the money.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    Tavoris Cloud UD12 Glen Johnson

    Sppedy from Cloud at the start of this first round. Glen trying to establish himself over his front foot with what actually looks like a reachier jab. Reachier not a word. He was pretty hot for a spell Cloud, this one and the next one, he sort of delivered upon what was expected of him. Cloud knows he's in with someone "real" in Johnson, who even at 41 remained a name. Very good opener, they are not using the ring it is fair to say. Thought Cloud nicked it on the jab.

    But very good body work by Glen to start the second, that's how you do it when you're up against a younger fighter, up, down, up, nothing too ambitious but using your experience to pick the punches. Cloud responds with a beautiful series of left hooks around the corner - this is a great round of boxing. Shortened u on the inside, both of them compact. Johnson has Cloud backing up for the first time, great round, Cloud wants to hold. Fabulous old-school round. Exceptional from Johnson. Johnson just knows how his opponent's body works. Johnson continues this great work across one single plane in the third, upstairs, up and he's putting together beautifully, just outside mid-range moving in. All left-hand. Cloud moves out late in the fourth and lands some very eye-catching rights and a nice little left-hook to the body.

    This is what he needs - he needs to lose 6/10 on the inside and then win 7/10 on the outside. I think he snuck that fourth round with that impressive step out.

    Cloud actually slips a couple in the fifth instead of keeping them on those big pillows but it's a first minute Johnson dominates before Cloud comes back with a counter left. And another. He's sneaking up on Johnson here. Left hook puts Johnson in bad trouble with a left hand with 50 seconds left - Johnson dominated this round but now loses it for me, pinned back to the ropes, Johnson won't give up though. Cloud finds what he needs to take the lead in the fight, splendid stuff.

    Cloud seems energised by that fifth round success and Johnson is waiting for him to punch himself out, just giving ground carefully, and here he comes back with the jab after a minute. It's very much a "my turn" moment. Johnson dominates the second minute but finishes it bumped up against Cloud, a little bereft; last minute will settle the round. Exquisitely close. Johnson probably just about out-pecked him to even it up.

    Johnson has been on the body, Cloud is finding Johnson's head, that's the way it's panned out. But there was an interesting moment in the seventh where Johnson, for the first time, doesn't close when Cloud walks out. It's a Johnson round, and he re-takes the lead, but this is an interesting round for the "direction" of the fight.

    This is a very, very good fight. Either I didn't see it first time around or I don't remember it as good as it was. In the eighth, Cloud takes off with a beautiful surging assault and finishes the round the same way. IN between, Johnson won't let him rest, but he dropped that round to the younger man.

    Glen just works the one-two beginning the ninth round, to middling avail. Cloud is letting him work though. Yeah, he's shelled up a bit here. It's very, very bad timing for letting a round go - Johnson can't lose (on my card) by winning one more round. Needs just 1/3 to avoid defeat. That's a gorgeous position to be in with three left in a tough, tough fight like this.

    Johnson is so good strategically. Every time it looks like Cloud will escape him, he comes back with something and in combination, no single shots. But I think that Cloud shaded the crucial tenth on the harder shots. So it's 5-5 with two remaining. Cloud has a little cut just above his left eye but he's not bleeding heavily.

    Big eleventh for Cloud. He lands quite of lot of punchers and they're a lot harder than anything Johnson has landed since maybe the third. It's a take charge round at at take charge moment - one thing though. Johnson would have bled Tarver all over the ring at age 36.

    So a deciding last round but I can't see how Glen will win it, he looks knackered. I love Glen Johnson.

    Johnson:2,3,6,7,9,
    Cloud:1,4,5,8,10,11,12

    115-113 Cloud.

    Not controversial.
     
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  11. McGrain

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    Tavoris Cloud SD12 Gabriel Campillo

    Now I remember this one; there was a bit of a stink on about this one. First round though, looks like just one winner, Campillo, who towers over Cloud, dropped by a straight right hand in behind a faint-like left (though i've never really seen Cloud feint...) goes to the body, then glubs him down with a left hook - not entirely sure that should have been called as such but Cloud will need the point by the sound...Campillo looks reasonably well organised but he's on the run.

    Campillo goes right back to boxing moving but he's just kind of flapping. Cloud has nothing to worry about it seems. Glorious right upercut and he's becoming much more fluid...suddenly this is difficult for CLoud. I think the taller man nicked that one.

    Cloud has disasters in round 2 and 3, landing almost nothing, getting totally outboxed, Campilo landing some glorious uppercuts from the outside, I love it. Cloud, barely, maybe, scrapes the fourth and it's absolutely crucial that he did so. Potential trouble brewing there. Campillo does the business in the fifth, but Cloud scrapes the sixth for me on the pressure. Cloud is winning rounds very very close when he wins them, but he's absolutely hanging with Campillo on my scorecard because of this.

    Campillo dominates through nine at which time he's evened up the fight on my card. Fluid, gorgeous footwork getting round the corner on his man after landing, a great slashing jab, and that uppercut, wow. But Cloud, who looks beaten up still has a chance through 10, 11 and 12, each man needs two of them, so it's a three-round shoot-out.

    Campillo kicks the **** out of Cloud through the 10th - in the eleventh, they stop the fight momentarily to look at the cut above his eye and he absolutely comes roaring back after the break and just - just about shades the round based upon the best punch he's landed since the first. Close round but I thought Cloud got it and may have rescued himself. 12th round shoot-out.

    Jesus that was close. I gave it to Campillo based on the last combo he landed. Very very close IMO.

    8-4 in rounds, 113-112 in points. Things are maybe a little harder than that on Campillo given that I scored Cloud three Cloud rounds extremely close and only one Campillo round close. So, narrow for me. But uncomfortable, if not quite a robbery.

    Cloud:1*,4,6,11,
    Campillo:2,3,5,7,8,9,10,12.

    *Campillo down twice.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

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    Rd. Duro : Briedis
    1. 10 : 9
    2. 10 : 9
    3. 9 : 10
    4. 8 : 10* (37-38)
    5. 9 : 10
    6. 8 : 9*
    7. 10 : 10
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    Briedis wins by 9th round TKO.

    Round 4* - Briedis sorta terrorised him, not gonna lie. I didn't see a single punch land forcefully from Duro and Briedis had him laying on the ropes hopeless, being held up by them, knocked out his gum-shield and landed massively. No KD, so I can see it being a 10-9, but not imo.

    Round 6* - Briedis won the majority of the round and scored a KD at the end from an awesome lead hook. Problem was, he had a point took for excessive holding.

    Real fun fight. Albeit one-sided.

    Duro was huge, tough and showed bollocks here. Briedis showed a good chin, awesome conditioning and his huge power, but also his dirty tactics too.
     
  13. George Crowcroft

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    Rd. Dmitry : Duro
    1. 10 : 9

    Durodola wins by 2nd round TKO.

    Fun little fight, a class cannon vs a tough guy who can bang normally ends up like this one though. Although...

    Rd. Dmitry : Duro
    1. 10 : 9
    2. 9 : 10
    3. 10 : 9
    4. 10 : 8 (39-36)

    Kudryashov wins by 5th round TKO

    Another fun one. Glad to see the Russian Hammer pick up a win here. A left hook in the third took Duro's him shield clean out and had him drooling on the ropes. The guy has real power.

    Not the most skilled series I've ever watched but it's a goodun in the CW division.
     
  14. roughdiamond

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    Hozumi Hasegawa vs Jhonny Gonzalez

    Hasegawa - Gonzalez

    R1: 9 - 10
    Hot opener. Gonzlez landing heavy hooks.
    R2: 10 - 9
    Hasegawa outspeeding Gonzalez.
    R3: 10 - 9
    Hasegawa again lightning fast. Exchanging.
    R4: KO

    Perfect right hand hook from Gonzalez puts Hasegawa down for a 10 count. Damn, a shame to watch, but a brilliant shot.
     
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    Juan Manuel Marquez vs Michael Katsidis

    Marquez - Katsidis

    R1: 10 - 9
    Intense starter. Sharp from both.
    R2: 10 - 9
    Marquez more effective but Katsidis working
    R3: 8 - 10
    Absolutely beautiful left hook to knock JMM down.
    R4: 10 - 9
    Marquez just better placed.
    R5: 10 - 9
    Close and a great round. Marquez more effective.
    R6: 9 - 10
    Marquez slowing, looking for a set up.
    R7: 10 - 9
    Marquez winning but he is not comfortable.
    R8: 10 - 10
    Insane stamina. Katsidis blazing here but Marquez has his number.
    R9: TKO
    Brilliant combos; Katsidis showing crazy heart as always.

    TOTAL: 77 - 75 MARQUEZ

    Notes:
    Great fight.
    Marquez showing amazing craft. Katsidis with heart and crazy spartan stamina as always.
     
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