the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

You got the link for the video? I'd love to watch it.

 

It suffers only in comparison to their second fight, though I do know some prefer this one.

 

Found it, at 175 views and 4 months old. This is a sleeper, and I haven't seen this yet. Looking forward to it.

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That's the one, George. Enjoy.

 

@scartissue and @George Crowcroft - I found this the other week and watched it. Should have said something on here, I don't think I did a RBR. The 8th is uncannily similar to their title fight, the exact same pattern repeated 2 years later. Not as good as their second fight (how could it be?) but an excellent scrap nonetheless.

 

Ricardo Mayorga vs Fernando Vargas

Here's a fight I checked out again just for kicks. I needed another old slam-bang fight right about now. This was towards the end of their respective careers, but it was bombs away nonetheless.

Round 1: 10-8 Mayorga (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Vargas
Round 5: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 6: 10-9 Vargas
Round 7: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 8: 10-9 Mayorga
Round 9: 10-9 Vargas
Round 10: 10-9 Vargas
Round 11: 10-8 Mayorga (scores a knockdown)
Round 12: 10-9 Mayorga

Total: 116-111 Mayorga

Official scores were 115-111, 114-112 and - I felt - a ridiculous 113-113. Vargas looked like he had momentum until that 11th round knockdown which sealed it up for Mayorga. Again, end of their careers - Vargas looking very paunchy around the middle.

 

I must be on a Vargas kick now cuz here is his fight with Oscar DeLaHoya. To tell you the truth, I was surprised when this match was made back in the day. Vargas had made himself insufferable with some of the crap he was saying about ODLH and as a result Oscar said, "I will never fight him." Which I realized at the time would be Oscar giving Vargas his greatest payday. But eventually money talks all-round and here we are.

Round 1: 10-9 Vargas
Round 2: 10-9 Oscar
Round 3: 10-9 Vargas
Round 4: 10-9 Oscar
Round 5: 10-9 Vargas
Round 6: 10-9 Vargas
Round 7: 10-9 Oscar
Round 8: 10-9 Oscar
Round 9: 10-9 Vargas
Round 10: 10-9 Oscar
Round 11: Oscar drops and stops Vargas

Total (through 10 completed rounds): 95-95 Even

Actual scores were 96-94 (twice) for Oscar and 97-94 for Vargas. I think the only round I disagreed with Harold Lederman was the 6th, which I gave to Vargas, he gave to Oscar and even the HBO team was saying what a great round it was for Oscar. So I rewatched the round. Nope! I still think it was Vargas' round. Anyways, good fight between two fighters who really didn't like one another.

 

Oscar De La Hoya vs Shane Mosley

DLH : Mosley

1: 9 - 10
Clear Shane round.
2: 10 - 9
Much better from Oscar, the aggressor.
3: 9 - 10
Lovely right hands. Great skill from both.
4: 10 - 9
Good, close action.
5: 10 - 9
Lovely body shots from DLH.
6: 10 - 9
DLH more effective with his pressure now.
7: 9 - 10
Close.
8: 9 - 10
Mosley switch hitting, oddly.
9: 9 - 10
Great round.
10: 9 - 10
Mosley laying back and scoring.
11: 9 - 10
DLH reaching here.
12: 9 - 10
All or nothing!

TOTAL: 116 - 112 MOSLEY

Notes:
Great fight. DLH was a punching machine, and Shane was like a damn mongoose.

 

Rough, I imagine this was their first fight, correct? Not putting pen to paper in either fight, I 'felt' Mosley deserved the first fight but thought Oscar deserved the second. I need to look at the second one again.

 

This is the first, yes. I will watch the second soon and get back to you, since there isn't much to do with this lockdown.

 

Here's my card I posted a while back:

 

Watched Johnny Famechon- Jose Legra just now. Not familiar with either really. Not a great fight, I must say I was surprised to see Famechon get the nod here. I had Legra up 145-141 at the end.

1. Legra
2. Legra
3. Even
4.Famechon
5. Famechon
6. Famechon
7. Famechon
8. Legra
9. Legra
10. Legra
11. Legra
12. Legra
13. Legra
14. Famechon
15. Legra

Wasn't terribly impressed with Legra, who does his best Ali impersonation of ruling his hands, making wild gesticulating gestures, while not really working as hard or as efficiently as he could.

Famechon was impressive defensively but has that self-contained non-committal style in the manner of a Billy Graham.

 

Claude Noel vs Rodolfo Gonzalez

This was for the WBA Lightweight strap that had been vacated by Sean O'Grady when he chose not to defend against #1 contender Noel. Gonzalez, coming off wins over a fading Vilomar Fernandez and Hawaiian flame thrower Andy Ganigan, was the favorite and A-side going into this match-up. But Noel was a legit, experienced contender who surprised the Mexican by fighting on the front foot and timing Gato repeatedly with the left hook.

1. Even
2. Noel
3. Noel
4. Noel
5. Gonzalez
6. Noel
7. Noel
8. Noel
9. Gonzalez
10. Noel
11. Noel
12. Gonzalez
13. Noel
14. Gonzalez
15. Noel

146-140 was my score. Judges called it for Noel as well, by fairly similar margins. Good fight, and an example of how an unspectacular guy can still flourish in a title fight under the right circumstances.

 

Watched prime Jorge Arce get outboxed by a 37 year old with 16 fights.

 

OK, here is their second fight

ODLH v Mosley II

Round 1: 10-9 Oscar
Round 2: 10-9 Oscar
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Oscar
Round 5: 10-9 Oscar
Round 6: 10-9 Oscar
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Mosley
Round 9: 10-9 Mosley
Round 10: 10-9 Oscar
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-9 Mosley

Total: 117-114 DeLaHoya

Actual scores were 115-113 X 3 all for Mosley. The Harold Lederman card was 115-113 for Oscar. I thought Oscar really did a good job of controlling the fight from the outside until Mosley finally got inside in the later rounds. It was clear to me that Mosley was not a junior middle. He no longer had that speedy pumping jab he had at lightweight and was really gunning for the KO the whole fight. Of course, what we know of him now getting caught up in the PED thing it is now understandable with the weight gain, whereas with Oscar it appeared to be more natural with his height and all. Regardless, I thought Oscar fought a smart fight and deserved the decision.