the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Julio Cesar Chavez vs Ruben Castillo

JCC : Castillo

1: 10 - 9
Feel out round.
2: 10 - 9
Extremely accurate right hands.
3: 10 - 9
Action packed
4: 10 - 9
Brilliant timing.
5: 10 - 9
Amazing head movement.
6: KO
Vicious exchanges and eventual beat-down.

TOTAL: 60 - 54 CHAVEZ

Notes:

• More competitive than the scores show.
• Vintage Chavez performance. Pressure, parrying and head-movement combined into a seamless package.

 

Jel, scored this today. We are almost exact in scoring as well as the few notes I made.

Round 1: 10-9 Eubank
Round 2: 10-9 Eubank
Round 3: 10-9 Thompson
Round 4: 10-8 Eubank (scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Thompson
Round 7: 10-9 Thompson (Eubank blew it! He had him and just stared at him. That is a moment in time that should justifiably haunt him)
Round 8: 10-9 Thompson (best round of the fight)
Round 9: 10-9 Thompson
Round 10: 10-9 Thompson
Round 11: 10-9 Thompson
Round 12: 10-9 Thompson

Total: 116-112 Thompson

At times it looked like a boy against a man, the size difference was that much and his corner would have been justified to pull him out late in the fight due to him floundering the last four rounds with the handicap of the closed left eye. But still, whatever one can say about Eubank, he had heart and I found myself screaming at the screen to 'get in there'. Thanks for recommending the fight, Jel.

 

Glad you enjoyed it! I was thinking the same as you about Eubank over the last 3 rounds - that his corner could have pulled him out at any time (which is basically what ended up happening in the rematch) but they kept him in. They could have said 'one more round to win or we're stopping it' just to light a fire up him but he missed his golden opportunity in that 7th round.

 

Jose Napoles v Emile Griffith

The quality on this film is so poor in parts that I can't pretend that my scoring is that precise. I can only go on what I see and at certain points that was not a lot but based on what I was able to view clearly, Napoles cemented himself as the fighter of the year for 1969 and one of the best in the sport by bossing a fellow ATG welterweight.

Now, Griffith hadn't fought at 147 for the better part of 4 years but he didn't seem noticeably weight drained here and was competitive all the way through until maybe the last three rounds where his punch output dropped and Napoles was fully in control. We'll never know how a peak welterweight version of Griffith would have done against Mantequilla but I doubt he'd have been able to make up the deficit in rounds that he lost by here.

Here's how I had it:
1 9-10
2 10-9
3 10-8 (Griffith is put down, not that I could see the punch that did it)
4 10-9
5 9-10 (close)
6 10-9
7 10-10
8 10-9 (close)
9 10-9
10 9-10 (close)
11 10-9
12 9-10 (close)
13 10-9
14 10-9
15 10-9
Napoles 146-139 Griffith

So Napoles takes it by 10-4-1 in rounds on my card.

This fight also got me thinking that the welterweight division has probably had more fellow ATGs fight each other than perhaps any other division. Matchups that have taken place between fighters in the top 10-20 all-time list include:
Jack Britton v Ted Kid Lewis
Mickey Walker v Jack Britton
Barney Ross v Jimmy McClarnin
Henry Armstrong v Barney Ross
Sugar Ray Robinson v Henry Armstrong
Sugar Ray Robinson v Kid Gavilan
Kid Gavilan v Carmen Basilio
Emile Griffith v Luis Rodriguez
Jose Napoles v Emile Griffith
Roberto Duran v Sugar Ray Leonard
Sugar Ray Leonard v Thomas Hearns

When you look at that list of names it's phenomenal and shows that there haven't been too many missed opportunities in welterweight history where the best didn't fight the best.

 

the lighter the weights, the less the cherry picking.

 

Henry Akinwande vs Axel Schultz I

One guy spamming half power jabs & peppering in body shots while the other plods forward and occasionally throws a 3 punch combo where 2 shots miss. Akinwande could've won this fight with 1 arm. 119-109 is kind of harsh, but the commentator and one judge had Akinwande @ 118 with a bunch of 10-10 rounds inflating Schultz. I don't play that way.

Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins I

115-113 Jones. One round kinder to BHop than the unanimous 116-112 of the judges. Jones Jr just got off first and would either tie up or be out of range. Snuck in so many of those sneaky lead left hooks. Forgot BHop was actually the #1 ranked MW when this happened. Wish we could've seen this fight again before they were ancient.

Danny Williams vs Audley Harrison I

What an awful fight. Only the last 3 rounds were worth watching. Danny Williams came in too heavy to track Audley down. Landed the few consequential blows of the early goings mostly to the body in awkward bursts. The few jabs he landed flush were stiff. He actually stunned Audley with a straight early and dropped him late with a sweeping haymaker. Audley pawed with his jab so sheepishly you couldn't even call it a scoring blow half the time. It rarely even landed on the cheek, chin, or brow. It was more likely to glance off a glove or the top of Danny's head. I think he landed 3 or 4 significant counter lefts the entire fight. He stunned Danny a couple of times late. Most of the fight was a standoff though. When Audley wasn't running he was holding. At least Danny threw rabbit punches in the clinch.

My score is pretty wide @ 117-110. The widest the official judges had it was 116-112. I have no qualms with that. There were so many rounds where next to nothing even happened, and I don't do 10-10 rounds like the officials did. I can't dispute the idea that pantomiming a jab was enough to swing a rounds the other direction either. The 10 point must system favors consistency and activity above all.

 

Okay George, finally broke away and watched it. Here how I had it:

1. Kelley
2. Kelley
3. Dorsey
4. Dorsey
5. Dorsey
6. Even
7. Kelley
8. Kelley
9. Kelley
10. Kelley
11. Dorsey
12. Kelley

116-113 Kelley. This surprised me a little, as though I didn't score it when I saw it live, I'd have sworn Dorsey deserved it but there ya go. I was impressed when after five or six rounds, Kelley was in danger of having his boat swamped but then dug deep and turned things late against the irrepressible Dorsey. Great performance by both men. Kelley the sharper puncher and began creating some space in the middle rounds just when it seemed Dorsey was building up a head of steam. Dorsey was undeterred but lost some snap late, despite continually marching forward.

Great fight.

 

Just watched Sandro Mazzinghi SD 15 Ki Soo Kim from 1968.

Not a great bout, I had it 10-5 for Mazzinghi with round f 3 being 10-8, or 145 -139.

Not the most artistic affair, with the bustling, busier Mazzinghi jumping in with flurries and trying to stifle the champion's counters by pushing and mauling a bit inside, but he was busy. Kim, a southpaw, just didn't do enough, especially considering the bout was held in the challenger's native Italy. He came alive to win rounds 8-10 and 14 and 15 but let the challenger dictate the pace of the fight. Kim had success when he took the initiative, and would have done damage throwing straight lefts at the lower guard of the Italian, but he just didn't get off.

Mazzinghi, incidentally, looked exactly like Sonny Corleone as depicted by James Caan.

Thus endeth my report.

 

Lennox Lewis v Evander Holyfield II

Funny how I never bothered to watch this one before. Much better performance from Holyfield than that sleep-walking performance in the first fight. I was actually rooting for Vander from a fight that took place years ago, which is how much I got into it.

Round 1: 10-9 Lewis
Round 2: 10-9 Lewis
Round 3: 10-9 Lewis
Round 4: 10-9 Lewis
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Holyfield
Round 7: 10-9 Holyfield
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Lewis
Round 10: 10-9 Lewis
Round 11: 10-9 Lewis
Round 12: 10-9 Holyfield

Total: 117-113 Lewis

 

Victor Galindez v Richie Kates 1

This is why 15 rounds is the mark of a true champion! You just don't get the narrative over 12 rounds that can unfold over 15 rounds with its ebbs and flows and this fight was full of them.

I had Kates up by a point going into the final round but can see it even or one point up to Galindez just as easily. The judges had this very wide for Galindez but I did a quick check on Eye on the Ring to gauge other people's scorecards and although they had Galindez ahead too, it was close enough to reflect the competitiveness of this fight.

Kates started really brightly and got the jab going while Galindez tried to figure him out but with the head clash in the third, Galindez changed things up and went all out. It looked like Kates would be overwhelmed, particularly after suffering a knockdown in the 7th and he took a real beating in several rounds after that. But from the 11th on, he wrestled the initiative back when Galindez allowed him back into the fight. On my card, at least, Galindez needed a special finish to retain his title and he got it. Galindez gave a very uneven performance but finished the fight spectacularly.

1 9-10 (Kates showing off an excellent quick fire jab to take the opener)
2 9-10 (even better from Kates. Galindez looking like he's trying to figure Kates out. Times him well with a left hook at the end of the round though)
3 9-10 (round starts normally then all hell breaks loose after an accidental clash of heads. The ring is full of people but Galindez continues. He's wound up!)
4 10-9 (the bad cut for Galindez seems to have woken him up and he goes wild on Kates)
5 10-9
6 10-9 (Galindez batters Kates again)
7 10-8 (Kates goes down after another Galindez onslaught)
8 9-10
9 10-9 (excellent action before Galindez has Kates nearly out on his feet)
10 10-9 (Kates takes another savage beating from the champion - I nearly made it a two point round despite no knockdowns)
11 9-10 (Kates shows remarkable resilience after the previous couple of rounds to keep himself in the fight. The cut still seems to be bothering Galindez)
12 9-10 (Galindez seems to have gone off the boil)
13 9-10 (Kates is doing the better work in there)
14 9-10 (close. A couple of blows seem to catch Galindez below the beltline but didn't appear to be a point deduction. Galindez needs to pull out a special last round to ensure he retains his title)
(Galindez 132-133 Kates)
15 Galindez KO Kates (That qualifies as special! Galindez drops Kates in the final seconds of the round with a sweeping double left hook. Remarkable finish!)

 

I'm having a LHW night (yes - I know how sad that is ) and this is on the list, among others. I wasn't planning on scoring them but I'll do this one.

 

Cool - will be good to see how close you have it.

 

Done.

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LHW Title

Official Scores:
101/90, 100/89, 100/89 for Galíndez
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Round 1: Kates 10-9, close.
Round 2: Kates 10-9, clear.
Round 3: Even 10-10, swing.
Round 4: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 5: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 6: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 7: Galíndez 10-8, clear.
Round 8: Kates 10-9, clear.
Round 9: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 10: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 11: Galíndez 10-9, close.
Round 12: Kates 10-9, clear.
Round 13: Kates 10-9, close.
Round 14: Kates 10-9, swing.
Round 15: Galíndez KO.

Galíndez

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Awesome fight, obviously. Top 10 at LHW? Too right it is. As someone who liked both, but not enough to call themselves a fan, this fight changed that.

Yeah, I had Galíndez up myself but only just. I can't fathom how they got the official cards. That's just wrong.

Both men showed massive heart in there, Galíndez through dealing with the cut and Kates stood up to a pasting through the mid rounds. I liked how Kates fought. He showed good all-round skill, especially with his left hand. Galíndez showed his versatility here, be it countering with sharp shots, fighting off the ropes or bullying his man down and forcing him to break; Galíndez could do it.
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