the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

There was mention on this forum about Efren 'Alacran' Torres and recalled I scored his first fight with Chartchai Chionoi not too long ago. What a terrific fight. Here we go.

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-8 Chionoi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Torres
Round 4: 10-9 Torres
Round 5: 10-9 Chionoi
Round 6: 10-9 Torres
Round 7: 10-9 Torres
Round 8: 10-9 Torres
Round 9: 10-9 Torres (very close round)
Round 10: 10-9 Chionoi (towards the end of this round Chinoi realizes he can hit Torres anytime he wants with that overhand right because he can't see from the cut)
Round 11: 10-9 Torres (almost scored this 10-8)
Round 12: 10-10 Even (Torres was winning this round until CC hurt him with a left-right and followed up well)
Round 13: Mercante and the doctor stop the fight in Chionoi's favor due to a severe cut on Torres' left eye

Total through 12 completed rounds: 116-113 Torres

I just loved Torres' short, hurtful punches and he just loved getting Chionoi on those ropes. I also loved that overhand right of CC, which was the same shot he decked Masao Ohba with in the first round of their fight. There were about 2 other rounds that could have also been considered a 10-8, which I should have made a note on. I can't say enough about this fight. Just a great fight. Incidentally, actual scores were 116-107 for Torres, 115-111 for Chionoi and 113-113 Even. I'm a bit confused on Arthur Mercante's score of 116-107. On the writeup on boxrec he says he had Torres ahead in rounds 7-4-1 - a difference of 3 rounds. So how is Torres ahead by 9 points?

 

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1978-09-15,

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Round 1: Even 10-10, swing.
Round 2: Rossman 10-9, swing.
Round 3: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 4: Galíndez 10-9, close.
Round 5: Galíndez 10-9, clear.
Round 6: Even 10-10, swing.
Round 7: Rossman 10-9, close.
Round 8: Galíndez 10-9, close.
Round 9: Rossman 10-9, clear.
Round 10: Rossman 10-9, close.
Round 11: Rossman 10-9, clear.
Round 12: Rossman 10-9, close.
Round 13: Rossman TKO.

Rossman

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Slow to start, before the third it was a case of two counter punchers positioning and reluctant to lead. There were still patches where this trend continued, but once Galíndez was cut it livened up, significantly. Rounds 3&4 were contested up close, and were very fun. Whereas rounds 5&6 were the opposite; at range and boring. Similar story with the 7th and 8th, but then as it reached the 'deep waters' the fight became electric. A brutal war up close, all the way to finish. A finish which, I thought was very premature.

It wasn't a great fight, but it had some unbelievable moments. The sessions of infighting were glorious, but some the rounds which were spent at long range were very forgettable. Basically the mid-rounds, and the first two were boring, the rest were pretty fun, but some were absolutely scintillating.

Galíndez's weight troubles finally caught up with him here. Without his stamina, he gassed, and when he gassed, he lost.

Notes

• I found out how Loughran is pronounced. Looks like @Flea Man was right. Pesky fecker.

• Turns out this was a big upset? Didn't know that. To think, an American winning back the title after so much was made of it was made by the commentators, and in front of such a huge crowd. Must've been huge for Rossman.

• Dunno if you've seen it, @Jel, but it's definitely worthy of that list you were telling me about.

 

Watched that one myself not too long ago, @scartissue . Fantastic fight.

My scorecard was pretty similar to yours overall, although I had it a shade wider, 116-111 for Torres going into the thirteenth. I gave Torres 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 11, but while you mentioned you were thinking about making the eleventh a 10-8, I actually did. I had Chionoi winning rounds 2 (10-8), 9 (which as you say was very close) and 10. Oddly enough, we both agree that the twelfth was an even round, all Torres early, all Chionoi late.

Amazing contest, just a shame it was a cuts stoppage which ended it.

 

Bobby Chacon v Rafael Limon 3

Ok, so my scorecard is not complete because rounds 1 and 2 were missing but even if Chacon had taken the opening two rounds, Limon would have still won on my card. Plenty of close rounds but the knockdown and battering Limon gave Chacon in the 7th seemed to swing the momentum in his favour and he took the remaining rounds on my card.

A very good action fight. Inevitably not as good as their final fight but still some great action.

1 round missing
2 round missing
3 9-10 (close)
4 10-9
5 10-9
6 10-9
7 8-10 (huge round for Limon. Knock down followed by all-out assault on Chacon)
8 9-10 (close)
9 9-10 (close again. Tough round - lots of back and forth)
10 9-10
Chacon 74-77 Limon

 

Thanks George. Indeed I have seen it and here's my card and comments:

 

Jose Napoles vs Ernie Lopez I

Love this fight! Have not watched it since I got rid of my collection a few years ago. Napoles is one of my favorites, so composed and precise, no wasted movement or energy, great punch variety...the total package in my mind. Lopez is outmatched, but so tough and resilient with no quit in him. Napoles drops him in 1 with a short compact left right on the button. Rounds 2-5 are super closely contested you could score them anyway you like. Lopez responds to the KD by taking the back and forth fight to Napoles. Rounds 6-8 Napoles takes a lead on the cards, and while taking the rounds it is still a hotly fought battle. Round 9 Lopez goes down at the end fortunately because Napoles does not get the chance to finish him. Rounds 10-13 Napoles takes command, not just on the cards, but winning in wider dominant fashion. Lopez can’t string combos together, and his hands are getting lower and the patient methodical Napoles begins to dissect him. Round 14 Lopez makes this closer but still clear for Napoles. Round 15 Napoles drops Lopez again, and attacks with the ref waving it off w/30 seconds to go.

1 Napoles KD
2 Napoles
3 Lopez
4 Lopez
5 Napoles
6 Napoles
7 Napoles
8 Napoles
9 Napoles KD
10 Napoles
11 Napoles
12 Napoles
13 Napoles
14 Napoles
15 Napoles TKO

I love this fight

 

I only have 2 threads on watch, and only I post in the other thread. I like being able to see everything in this one. By far my favourite.

 

Jung Koo Chang v Hideyuki Ohashi 2

Chang's final defense before his first retirement in 1988. My scorecard is heavily towards Chang but Ohashi was competitive in most rounds. The 3rd was the standout with Chang dominating and nearly stopping Ohashi before the Japanese fighter came back hard at the end and had Chang on rubbery legs.

After that, Chang wore down Ohashi and after the 7th, it was pretty inevitable that Ohashi wouldn't be able to survive for much longer.

1 10-9
2 10-9
3 10-7 (astonishing - Chang puts Ohashi down 3 times and then Ohashi wobbles Chang and has in trouble before the bell comes to Chang's rescue. I made it 10-7 not 10-6 because of it.)
4 10-9
5 10-9
6 9-10
7 10-7
(69-60)
8 Chang TKO Ohashi

 

liston was another one the "on top" fighters. They are devastating and very impressive when they fight their fight. Trouble is how bad that "on top" type fighter looks when it's plan B time.

 

Nigel Benn v Sugar Boy Malinga II

Round 1: 10-9 Malinga
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Malinga
Round 4: 10-9 Malinga
Round 5: 10-9 Benn (scores a knockdown)
Round 6: 10-9 Malinga
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Malinga
Round 9: 10-9 Malinga
Round 10: 10-9 Malinga
Round 11: 10-9 Malinga
Round 12: 10-8 Malinga (scores a knockdown)

Total: 119-110 Malinga

Actual scores were 118-109 and 115-111 for Malinga, but what Chuck Giampa was watching I'll never know because he came up with a 114-112 for Benn. To begin, I scored the 5th round only a 10-9 for Benn because he didn't do a thing that round other than deck Malinga. Malinga was having a really good round up until getting caught and even afterwards, Benn's followup was crap. I just could not give Benn a 10-8. Conversely, the 12th round knockdown scored by Malinga was a bit iffy, but Benn was tagged before he slipped or fell (depending on how you saw it). I felt there was enough there to call it a knockdown. I don't think he slipped - more of a balance thing. Benn just fought a poor fight, throwing haymakers and following Malinga around. He clearly had no set plan for this fight, whereas malinga stuck to the plan, stuck to the jab and combos and was a deserved winner. But again, what fight was Giampa watching?

 

Ernie Lopez vs Hedgemon Lewis III

@George Crowcroft probably not worthy of your list but well worth a watch...call it a poor mans Ortega vs Paret

1st very disappointing that the end of the fight is missing and because of that I won’t post my card...I may not have watched it had I known it but I am glad that I did. This is a fun and exciting fight. The pressure, body work and high work rate of Ernie blended with the movement jab and often times the better punch of Lewis even though he gets outlanded. Making this a difficult fight to score especially if you are rusty from a month off like myself. Fortunately Ernie ends this in 10 and takes the SD away 2 judges had Ernie 6-2/5-2 while the red saw it 6-2 for Lewis. Not posting my rbr but had it 6-3 on my card. Once again the video cut out is disappointing but worth the watch if like myself you have never seen it before.

 

Emile Griffith v Luis Rodriguez 2

Horrible fight to score and not much more fun to watch either. Griffith's most effective weapon was his head which he used to rush Rodriguez where Rodriguez would tie him up. There was a little more space in the middle rounds which is where the Cuban did his best work.

Lots of close rounds and lots of scrappy moments in a forgettable encounter between two admitted ATGs.

1 10-9 (close opener, not a lot in it)
2 10-9
3 9-10
4 9-10 (close)
5 10-9 (really scrappy)
6 9-10
7 10-10 (this fight is not a fun watch)
8 9-10
9 9-10
10 9-10
11 9-10 (close)
12 10-9
13 9-10 (Rodriguez edges it with his bodypunching at the end)
14 10-9 (close)
15 10-9 (close)

Griffith 142-144 Rodriguez