the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Julio Cesar Chavez vs Rocky Lockridge

JCC : Lockridge

1: 9 - 10
Lockridge on activity
2: 10 - 9
Chavez much more effective - landing the lead upper.
3: 10 - 9
Lockridge active but Chavez more effective
4: 10 - 9
Chavez with some lovely rights.
5: 9 - 10
Lockridge with some old form.
6: 10 - 9
Lockridge hurt.
7: 10 - 10
Close and grazing.
8: 10 - 9
Chavez bruising Lockridge inside.
9: 10 - 9
Chavez with rear uppercuts.
10: 10 - 9
Lockridge winging lots in close.
11: 9 - 10
Lockridge active and game.
12: 10 - 9
Clear Chavez round.

TOTAL: 117 - 112 CHAVEZ

Notes:

• Good showcase of Chavez's skills. Jab looking much more active than the Rojas fight.
• Lockridge obviously past prime here. Extremely game, but not really an impressive performance.

 

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1971-11-11

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FW Title

Yong-Soo Chung 69-72
Nobumitsu Inukai 71-71
Ryoji Kashiwagi 71-65
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Round 1: Marcel 5-4, close.
Round 2: Marcel 5-4, clear.
Round 3: Shibata 5-4, close.
Round 4: Shibata 5-4, swing.
Round 5: Even 5-5, swing.
Round 6: Marcel 5-4, close.
Round 7: Even 5-5, swing.
Round 8: Marcel 5-4, clear.
Round 9: Shibata 5-4, clear.
Round 10: Marcel 5-4, close.
Round 11: Marcel 5-4, close.
Round 12: Marcel 5-4, clear.
Round 13: Marcel 5-4, clear.
Round 14: Shibata 5-4, close.
Round 15: Marcel 5-4, close.

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Ahh, the ever so underrated Ernesto Marcel. Working off a 5 point must system here like the officials, speaking of which; the two with preposterous scores are from Japan, and this was held there. The referee was pretty bias, too.

Jesus, despite Shibata being such a high-class opponent, this was a real beating in the 12th and 13th. Round 9 was clear Shibata round, really shows his skills. Rounds 12 and 13 were very dominant for El Ñato.

Marcel had a nasty left, it really ripped Shibata's face up. Shibata himself had an awesome left hand. His short hooks were a thing of beauty. Marcel's movement is wonderful, he has crazy reflexes and fast, accurate hands. Not many people can even keep up with Shibata, let alone conceive making him look stuck in mud like Ñato did in a few of those rounds.

My dad was watching Red Dwarf and Lister said 'Boxing, at its finest, is more than a sport; it's an art form.' This fight is the perfect 45 minutes to exemplify that.

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Jel, if I'm reading it correctly, boxrec actually has Ncita ahead 96-95, 97-94 and 96-94 after 10 rounds. No matter, my card was different than theirs anyway. Let me begin by agreeing with you and cleming that this was a great fight.

Round 1: 10-9 Ncita
Round 2: 10-9 Ncita
Round 3: 10-9 McKinney
Round 4: 10-9 McKinney
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Ncita
Round 7: 10-9 McKinney
Round 8: 10-9 McKinney
Round 9: 10-9 McKinney
Round 10: 10-9 Ncita
Round 11: McKinney takes a knee early in the round for an 8 count but scores a one-punch KO.

Total (through 10 completed rounds): 96-95 McKinney

This was still anyone's fight and what a great fight it was. I loved Ncita's speedy combos and body-punching, but McKinney's bombs were taking over. I loved Ncita's last gasp in the 10th, which carried over to stunning McKinney in the 11th. Not much you can do with a one-punch KO, which was brilliant. Anyone scoring this, it is like Jel said, so many rounds are very close.

 

You're absolutely right - I misread it and Ncita was ahead on the cards going into the 11th. Would have made things interesting on the cards had Ncita survived a KD and made it through the round. No chance though with that punch!

 

I was looking at that after you mentioned it. Let's say Ncita did somehow survive the round. He likely would have been on total defense trying to last the round, so it's a McKinney round by one point due to Ncita's knockdown earlier in the round. We can also assume that McKinney had momentum going and took the next round by a point. In that regard, with those scores, Ncita would retain his title on a draw unless McKinney scored another knockdown in the 11th or one in the 12th. But like you said, there was no returning from that punch.

 

Salvador Sanchez v Danny Lopez 1

Not much point in providing a RBR for this one as I had it 120-108 before the stoppage in the 13th. To be fair to Lopez, the first 3 rounds were competitive and I can see an argument for Lopez in at least the 2nd and maybe the 3rd. From the 4th round on, though, Lopez got taken apart.

Like when Jose Napoles picked apart Curtis Cokes, this was the case of a very fine champion being outclassed by a future ATG and one of the great first title winning performances.

Here's my RBR anyway:
1 10-9
2 10-9 (close, great action)
3 10-9 (close again - Lopez hitting Sanchez with more shots than I remember but Sanchez showing an impenetrable chin and an implacable demeanour and firing back with his own hard counters to edge the round again)
4 10-9 (Sanchez starting to do some damage to Lopez. Lopez's left eye is looking puffy)
5 10-9
6 10-9 (doctor checks out Lopez's eye. He looks a mess but he's allowed to continue)
7 10-9 (another check by the doctor as blood is streaming from the other eye now)
8 10-9
9 10-9 (closer)
10 10-9
11 10-9 (Sanchez batters Lopez towards the end of the round)
12 10-9
(120-108)
13 Sanchez TKO Lopez

 

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1972-08-19,

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Luis Sulbaran 148-144
Santos Arizmendi 148-141
Carlos R Cartaya 146-146
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Round 1: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 2: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 3: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 4: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 5: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 6: Marcel 10-9, close.
Round 7: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 8: Marcel 10-9, close.
Round 9: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 10: Marcel 10-9, swing.
Round 11: Marcel 10-9, close.
Round 12: Marcel 10-8, clear.*
Round 13: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 14: Marcel 10-9, clear.
Round 15: Even 10-10, swing.

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*Blatantly held up by the ropes at the end, should've been a count, I'm making it a 2 point round.
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What a performance.... over such a good fighter, too. Gomez was no slouch, probably on par with the Mexican Trio from the '00s. An MD is very misleading, there was absolutely no doubt that Marcel dominated this fight.

El Ñato really is an amazing fighter. In this fight he showed a very diverse offence, especially on the inside. Unbelievable head-movement (crazy reflexes) and he wasn't adverse to fouling. His footwork was wicked, very fast, masterful shifts and pivots, matrix level angles. He could cut the ring off wonderfully too, and at such a high speed it's hard to escape him. Godlike stamina, threw at a high workrate and moved all night and looked fine. Sure he took breathers, but he took 2 and still won the rounds. He has a 'flair' about him, too; very creative fighter.

 

Yesterday watched Conteh- Yaqui Lopez, though I won't bother with a complete scorecard since the first round and a half was missing. I hate that sort of thing, but whaddya do.

Conteh displays an outstanding left and slips shots beautifully. He's very impressive because he stands mostly in the pocket while avoiding punches while slashing away with that patented left.

I gave the resilient and determined Lopez five rounds of those I saw, so it was a clear but hard-fought decision for the champion. Nice to see the impressive stylings of Conteh again. I'd only ever seen him against Saad. Hardly a fair representation.

 

Got to be honest - I didn't know anything at all about Antonio Gomez but the bit I've highlighted in your post caught my attention because I thought that was a pretty bold claim. So I checked his boxrec record and saw the names Antonio Cervantes and Esteban DeJesus with a W against them and was impressed. The only thing is... I don't think the Antonio Cervantes he beat is the same as Kid Pambele and the DeJesus was probably relatively green then (but still a top win with hindsight). But still wondering if Antonio Gomez is really on a par with MAB, JMM and EM. Do you really think so?

 

Aye, the record is deceiving. Kid Pambele beat Roldolfo Gonzalez 4 fights later. DeJesús was very green.

It's his skill on film why I said such high praise, he absolutely pieced the active champion to win his belt. I think he's as good H2H as the Mex Trio.

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Yesterday I watched a fight I've been wanting to see for some time, Kostya Tsyzu v Jan Bergman. Bergman was a big puncher whom I was following at the time and thought it would be fireworks. Well, not really as Bergman fought a planned fight jabbing and sharp-shooting from the outside. I gave Bergman rounds 1, 2 and 4 and Tsyzu rounds 3 and 5. But regardless of my scores, never, ever did Tsyzu give the slightest inclination that he wasn't in charge every second of this fight and dropping a few rounds was all part of the plan. It just seemed the first five rounds was meant to soften up Bergman before lowering the boom, which he did in the 6th. Still, I enjoyed the fight.

 

I was wrong - it is Kid Pambele. But a Cervantes in 1969. Was surprised because Gomez was a Featherweight and Cervantes would be fighting less than two years later for the light welter title.

H2H makes more sense re their relative quality. I do have this on my to-watch list but it's about 30 fights back so will eventually watch it and see what I think.

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one with like 30 fights to watch then!

Also, the vid is like 7 minutes long.