the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. boxingscorecard

    boxingscorecard Active Member Full Member

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    ive started a boxing blog dedicated to boxing scorecards , hence the username.

    well the first fight i put on it was the one i consider the biggest robbery in boxing history...ramirez vs whitaker 1

    i had it 118-110 whitaker ...only the uk judge had the correct guy winning

    the full fight is on my blog with my scorecard

    http://boxingscorecard.blogspot.com/
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I actually had it quite wide to Cokes, I favoured his sharper punching, i think I had it 7-3, it was competitive though. But good analysis though, I agree with it.

    I also watched Cokes fight with Hayward.

    Now that is a brawl, Cokes really struggles early as Hayward imposes his size by being overly aggressive and launching big hooks. When Cokes composes himself and gets the range and timing, he really does damage with sharp punches and counterpunches and drops Hayward a few times. Cokes stays in command but Hayward just does not let up and wears him down and takes him out, and this is in 4 rounds or so. Superb fight.

    Cokes is a really classy fighter, just always seems to be a notch below top class level IMO.

     
  3. UncleChris

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    How did some of you folks score Toney-McCallum I? I watched it for the first time and gave it to Toney 115-114, with it even going into the last, which Toney dominates. The way the British commentators on my copy talked about the eventual decision you'd think it was robbery of the century. Overall, I love this fight.

    I can't argue with the draw though because it was tough to score. McCallum clearly was the more accomplished boxer, but almost without exception every single notable blow of the contest was landed by Toney. That has to count for something, doesn't it?

    I'm going to sit down with the rest of this triolgy over the next few days.
     
  4. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I also watched Cokes - Hayward. Great fight from a great venue, the Blue Horizon. Those close balcony seats are awesome. Cokes' Manager was brave to take this fight. Ultimately Hayward just seemed to big for Cokes. But Cokes did manage to hurt Hayward and drop him at the end of the second round. If he had 30 more seconds I believe he could have finished Hayward.
     
  5. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Yeh Cokes was a very deceiving puncher, he didn't look to have power but he was so sharp he could hurt you.
     
  6. salsanchezfan

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    Watched Briscoe-Mundine last night. Bennie took him out in the fifth, a very good performance. A study in relentless pressure without throwing a lot of wasted punches.

    Mundine countered as best he could, but most of his shots were thrown while he was stepping backward, so he had little on them. Then he was just walked down.
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Just watched Harold Johnson's first bout with Bob Satterfield.

    Unfortunately my version only had five rounds and the rest missing.

    It is quite a good performance by a young Johnson, and he does not change much throughout his career IMO.

    In this one he is pretty much all business behind that left jab, controlling the range and just keeping it in Satterfields face. Bob for his part is keeping in a semi-crouch looking to get over that jab with his own big right, a wise decision really.

    Johnson's jab is usually able to keep Satterfield off and not allow him to counter with the right, but a few times that big right comes through and hits him flush, although to Harold's credit he takes it well.

    Afew times Johnson launches his own right hand counter that lands with devastating effects although he is never able to put Satterfield down, he tends to parry with the right hand then come straight back with a hard, long straight right that travels right down the middle.

    Lovely performance overall by Johnson.
     
  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Last night I watched Vilomar Fernandez outpoint Arguello. Well-deserved, I actually had it a bit wider than the judges, who had it 6-4, 5-5, and 5-4-1. I scored it 7-3 for Fernandez.
     
  9. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    I've always had it a deal level draw.

    I need to watch Arguello soon, been a wile since I watche dhim.
     
  10. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Norton-Ali 2

    KN- 2,5,6,7,11
    MA- 1,3,4,8,9,10,12

    Ali 7-5 115-113

    Probably the best fight out of the trilogy. Ali was probably in the best shape in his career post-Exile. He moved well and was being chased by an ineffective Norton early in the fight. Kenny blocked/evaded punches early on but didn’t mount a good body attack until later in the fight. I noticed early when Ali would circle off the ropes that Norton didn’t try to tap his body when it was vulnerable. Norton found the left hook and right hands and showed his ability to fight inside by nailing Ali with right uppercuts when they were close. In the middle, Norton mixed up his body and head attacks but was focusing more on shots such as hooks and overhand rights though many were landing. In many of the rounds past the 6th, Norton would throw the more telling shots but Ali would throw some jabs, straights, the occasional left hooks+left uppercuts well enough to still take rounds(not all in order but many times he would start with his jab). This fight could’ve gone either way but Norton should’ve won at least two of the trilogy as I heard he got robbed in the third. I felt that Ali wanted it more in the last round and Norton didn’t throw enough to take it. He let his hands go more in the last minute but by then Ali already had the round and Norton didn’t hurt Ali enough to steal the round though Ali was holding on for dear life. Great fight.
     
  11. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I recently watched Pryor - Arguello I off ZeffieTowers site in really high quality format. It's incredible the detail you can see in these uploads. Great fight to watch. I just have no need or desire to watch the 14th round ever again. I watch Arguello - Escalera I & II about once a year just because they are incredible fights. And one of my favorite Arguello efforts is against Leonel Hernandez.

    I watched Hagler - Norberto Cabrera based on a suggestion from another thread that Cabrera was leading that fight after 7 rounds. Cabrera fought a good, tough fight (Typical Argentinian), showed good skill and did land the lead right on Hagler a fair amount. But I didn't see it that way. I gave Cabrera 2 rounds. Typical prime Hagler fight for me, keeping his opponent at the end of those great punches with subtle footwork. Hagler's style is contradictory to me, a smooth, elegant wrecking ball. Love watching him fight even though his personality got old for me back in the day.
     
  12. Thread Stealer

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    Watched Hagler-Hamsho 1 again.

    Hamsho was one tough ****er. Hagler jabbed the living **** out of him, maybe even worse than he did Sibson. Hamsho had a bad cut around his right eye, and another smaller cut under his left eye, and kept taking shots throughout the fight. He tried very hard and even landed some decent shots on Hagler, but unfortunately for him, Hagler had one of the great chins of all-time.

    Hagler used very efficient movement and mixed it up. Moving laterally or on the backfoot at times, coming forward at other times. Snuck in some hard body shots in between the head shots. One of the best performances from one of the best MWs ever.
     
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    If you want to see the most disgusting, outrageous robbery ever, watch Juan Coggi-Eder Gonzalez 1.

    You don't need to score it though, it doesn't go the distance.
     
  14. salsanchezfan

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    I read that Hamsho took 55 stitches after that fight. I know the fight is usually described as being stopped because of the severity and number of cuts Hamsho had, but his legs were also starting to go by the end. Hagler was pushing him around pretty good at the end, and he was starting to stumble.
     
  15. tommygun711

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    hagler-leonard had hagler winning it 113-114