the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Fight 16: Golovkin vs Canelo 2

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 10-9
4: 10-9
5: 10-9
6: 9-10
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 10-9
10: 10-9
11: 9-10
12: 10-9

This fight sees Canelo make adjustments to stand his ground more and throw with more venom. Golovkin basically carries on doing what he did.

This fight was harder to score imo as Golovkin was very dominant behind his jab, but he couldn't put his combinations together as well as Canelo could.

I found myself in total agreement with Lederman on this one and felt Golovkin was the worthy winner, but there are a lot more swing rounds here.

It looked at one point like Canelo had worked G to the body successfully and tired him down, but Golovkin finished the fight very strongly, so maybe he was just having a round off.

I wouldn't say I'm vehemently against the decision awarded here, I just don't think its representative of the fight that took place. I mean if the decision is just, you are accepting that Canelo is the number 1 MW in the world, and I don't even think he was the number 1 MW in this fight.

But credit to him, he fought his heart out, he stood and traded when many thought he'd run. Golovkin said he wanted more of a fight and that's exactly what he got.

I don't think the right man won, but I'm not as aggrieved by the decision here.

Props to both fighters.

116-112

 

Fight 17: Golovkin vs Derevyanchenko

1: 10-8
2: 10-9
3: 9-10
4: 9-10
5: 9-10
6: 9-10
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10: 9-10
11: 10-9
12: 10-9

The first thing that stood out to me in this opening round was that Golovkin is even slower than he was against Brook, Jacobs and Canelo, but the difference here is Derevyanchenko doesn't seem fast enough to take advantage of it, meaning the big power shots of G are able to get through, and if he's able to land those power shots, there aren't many in history who would stand up to him. Big first round by G.

Second round sees Golovkin again getting the better of the action, he's able to get his power shots off and now he's cut the eye of D.

Third round starts with Derevyanchenko sinking on a huge body shot and for the first time in his career, Golovkin looks genuinely hurt.

Derevyanchenko is very busy and very accurate, again able to drive Golovkin back and boss the round in the 4th, 5th and 6th. Sergiy takes the lead on my cards at the half way point and G is looking to be an old fighter now.

Round 7 and 8 shows Golovkin sitting down on his punches a bit more and reducing the work rate of Derevganchenko. It is now apparent that he wasn't just an old fighter raking a beating, he was soaking up the pressure hoping Sergiy would not be able to keep it up for the full fight. Golovkin still looks fresh in there and this is really shaping up to be an excellent fight.

Rounds 9 and 10 see Sergiy up the work rate again and repeatedly tag Golovkin, driving him back and bullying him around the ring with his work rate and accuracy. Again Golovkin is starting to look old and hapless at times.

Round 11 and 12 see Golovkin finish the stronger man and do the better work to just about edge out the victory on my card.

114-113

Jacobs, Canelo 2 and Derevyanchenko where all very close fights and whilst I think Golovkin won all 3, it very easily could be the other way.

 

Fight 18: Golovkin vs Szeremeta

1: 10-8
2: 10-8
3: 10-9
4: 10-8
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: ko

So what do we know. Golovkin has been the best MW in the world for 7 years. His hand speed has significantly declined, but his jabbing technique has continued to improve year after year.

He's able to dominate lower level opposition and is able to edge out elite level opposition.

He'd be a favourite over any MW in the world today.

Canelo would probably be expected to beat him though, but actually given the way the last two fights have gone, Golovkin hadn't stylistically declined since those fights with Canelo, dominating behind the jab is something he is still capable of doing, so we're likely to see another FOTY candidate where Canelo takes a debatable decision.

Yes Golovkin has clearly aged since his prime, but you know what, I still think he's the best MW in the world.

I'd love to see him in there against Tiger, Toney and Burley but when all is said and done, I'm happy I've seen him against the best the decision has to offer over the last 7 years (crippled Martinez and Cotto would not be listed amongst the best MW guys of the previous 7 years so I'm OK with that statement).

 

I really enjoyed that Golovkin binge, truth be told.

Really enjoyed it.

Might have a similar themed binge watching Roman Gonzalez.

 

Tony Sibson v Mark Kaylor

This had all the earmarks of one great all-British showdowns, but marred by a lot of clinching. Nevertheless, here we go.

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Sibson
Round 3: 10-9 Kaylor
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Sibson
Round 6: 10-9 Sibson
Round 7: 10-9 Sibson
Round 8: 10-9 Sibson
Round 9: 10-9 Sibson
Round 10: 10-9 Kaylor
Round 11: 10-9 Kaylor
Round 12: 10-9 Kaylor

Total: 116-114 Sibson (actual scores: 116-114 and 2 scores of 117-115 all for Sibson)

Sibson simply outhustled Kaylor throughout most of this fight. I don't know what Kaylor's corner were telling him but keeping Sibson on the end of his jab and sharp-shooting with the right worked, but then repeatedly fell into clinches where Sibbo was the stronger and busier. Late in the fight - possibly out of urgency - Kaylor started turning it on and was now the stronger of the two in the clinches and he really started letting the punches fly. Just a bit late though. Rounds 11 and 12 were the best of the fight, which again, was marred by clinches.

 

Fight 1: Gonzalez vs Niida

1:10-9
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:ko

In this fight, Gonzalez is a bit like a lesser Golovkin, he doesn't have the same level of jab or footwork, but he has the crushing power, that menacing presence and the forward momentum.

He basically walks right through Niida who somehow stays standing throughout the fight, but looks like he's been in a car crash by the end of it.

The year is 2008 and Gonzalez has just entered the world scene.

 

Do it. We've all been there, and there's good reason for it. It's great fun!

 

I think it will be the third time I've binge watched him tbh, one of my favourites to watch.

 

George, I've been meaning to see this. Checked it out this morning. It was bombs away in a very small ring. You summed up everything perfectly. The only difference in our cards was that I gave the 2nd round to Kaylor. On British scoring I had Gumbs up 39 - 38 1/2 going into the wild 5th. Excellent fight.

 

Fight 2: Gonzalez vs Rosas

1:10-9
2:10-9
3:9-10
4:10-9
5:10-9
6:9-10
7:9-10
8:9-10
9:10-9
10:10-9
11:10-9
12:10-9

This is Gonzalez's first defence of his minimum weight title. A very lowly regarded division, one which you can claim any number of fighters are the best at any one time due to lack of unification fights historically.

Gonzalez did impress when he walked through Niida and Niida was considered the next best in the division once Calderón left to move up.

He tries walking through Rosas straight away but Rosas doesn't give ground, he stands strong and fires back and we wind up having a bit of an inside war, which shows two things : Gonzalez is capable of slipping 5 punches in a row, Rosas is capable of throwing 6 punches in a row. There isn't a lot to split them, but I feel Roman did the better work so he edges the first round, but it's clear this will be a battle for you.

By round 3 I'm asking myself what's the point of scoring this, there is so little in it. The first 3 rounds could all go to either man as both are having success.

By round 5 I'm getting the impression that Gonzalez is out landing Rosas and doing the better work, but he's really being pushed hard here and Rosas seems very determined to take home the belt.

Rounds 6, 7 and 8 see Rosas change up his strategy and start moving and pot shotting, Roman struggles here due to his lack of jab and technique in terms of his footwork. Can't help but compare him to a lesser Golovkin again tbh.

Round 9 saw Gonzalez close the difference but more to do with Rosas slowing down, than Gonzalez trapping and timing him. Great fight but not a great performance considering this guy arguably became P4P number 1.

Rounds 10-12 saw Gonzalez finishing strongly and Rosas a bit out of ideas.

This is the very definition of "going life and death with"

116-112

 

Fight 3: Gonzalez vs Rosas 2

1:10-9
2:ko

This fight is at the next weight class now and a full 2 years since Gonzalez won his first belt.

He's made two noticeable improvements since the last showing.

He's a lot more measured and a lot stronger. He's now sitting down on his punches and picking them much better than he did first time round.

Rosas doesn't know what's hit him and he's blitzed in two rounds.

 

Fight 4: Gonzalez vs Salado

1:10-7
2:10-9
3:10-9
4:10-9
5:10-9
6:10-9
7:ko

Gonzalez here was majestic. Brilliant on the front and back foot. Amazingly sets up his punches without throwing a jab.

Quality showing.

 

Fight 5: Gonzalez vs Soto

1:10-9
2:ko

This is just vintage Gonzalez. Can throw a hook from any range, can follow that up with pinpoint combinations, and can decapitate you with a single right hand.

Brutal.

 

Fight 6: Gonzalez vs Estrada

1: 9-10
2: 9-10
3: 10-9
4: 9-10
5: 10-9
6: 10-9
7: 10-9
8: 10-9
9: 9-10
10: 10-9
11: 10-9
12: 10-9

Gonzalez far too passive in the opening rounds, I wouldn't describe him as a slow starter but here for some reason he's much more hesitant.

Rounds 3 and 4 show the improvements Gonzalez has made at cutting the ring off, but Estrada is still a quality operator and took one of the rounds.

5 to 8 Gonzalez has come alive here and seems to have too much for Estrada who can't keep him away at all.

In the 9th Estrada turns ring general and controls Gonzalez, quite easily.

The final three rounds were close but clear for Roman as his accuracy meant he came off better in pretty much every exchange.

116-112

 

Fight 7: Gonzalez vs Rodriguez Jr

1:9-10
2:9-10
3:9-10
4:10-9
5:10-9
6:10-8
7: ko
8:
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10:
11:
12:
This is a win that aged quite well, at the time it was very much seen as a waste of a stay busy fight, but then Rodriguez went on to unify the Stw division which added some credibility to the victory.

Even though Gonzalez lost the first 3 rounds in my card, it didn't seem like a fight he was losing, but Rodriguez was whipping in hard counters and edging the rounds in my opinion.

Gonzalez pressure took over though as he cut the ring off expertly and hammered in those hard hooks over and over.

The stoppage maybe was a bit weak, but inevitable. Kinda like the Froch Groves stoppage.