the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Ioka vs Palicte

The last two men to fight Nietes before he retired, both of whom have him big problems in different ways.

The fight started very bad for Ioka, he looked like a little boy in there and had issues getting in and out against the bigger man.

Some rounds I thought Palicte was on the verge of cutting right through Ioka like a knife through butter.

But then Ioka started getting a bit more success and Palicte started slowing more and more.

The end was sudden and it was the smaller man who forced the referee to wave it off after an unanswered barrage of punches left Palicte tasting a stoppage defeat.

 

Ioka vs Tanaka

I'd kind of slept on Ioka since his comeback, I must admit.

But these 3 performances here against Nietes, Palicte and Tanaka are enough to make him a lock for P4P top ten.

Tanaka was on the up and started this fight excellently, but Ioka has really mastered the art of breaking down his opponent with sharp counters, and he took Tanaka apart here.

Great performance by Ioka.

 

Taylor vs Postol

1:9-10
2:10-9
3:9-10
4:9-10
5:9-10
6:10-9
7:9-10
8:9-10
9:10-9
10:10-8
11:10-9
12:10-9

114-113

First round shows Postol really control the fight from range, Taylor looks a bit hapless like he's stepped up too soon as Postol lands from range keeping Taylor away.

2nd round sees Taylor finding success jabbing over the top of Postol, and you can see his footwork starting to cause Postol issues.

Rounds 3,4 and 5 see Postol take control again with his long rangy punches, really finding a home for that long straight. Postol looking very good to this point.

Round 6 sees Taylor really get the bit between his teeth and take it to Postol who isn't really able to live with the pace Faymkr is setting.

Rounds 7 and 8 see Postol again dictating behind his long rangy punches and at this point Taylor is miles behind and in need of a miracle.

Round 9 we see Taylor again forcing the action and upping the pace, and when the fight is like this, he gets the better of the exchanges and forces mistakes from Postol, who likes to slow it down from a distance.

Round 10 we see Taylor finally make that break through and drop Postol with a big left in a shot could prove huge on the scorecards.

Rounds 11 and 12 see Taylor able to tag Postol, hurt him and close the show to steal victory from the Jaws of defeat.

The cards for this one are insane. 118-110 is outrageous, a Postol victory is much more reasonable than a wide Taylor victory.

But what a performance in a first step up in class.

 

Apparently this thread is just me at the moment lol.

Next up will be Taylor Baranchyk

 

FF, I just checked this fight out and then did a 'search' to see if anyone else had, and saw that you and @PhillyPhan69 both scored this fight. Here is how I had it:

Pone Kingpetch v Fighting Harada I (5 point must)

Round 1: 5-4 Harada
Round 2: 5-4 Harada
Round 3: 5-4 Harada
Round 4: 5-4 Kingpetch
Round 5: 5-4 Harada
Round 6: 5-4 Harada
Round 7: 5-4 Kingpetch
Round 8: 5-4 Harada
Round 9: 5-4 Harada
Round 10: 5-4 Harada
Round 11: Harada stops Kingpetch (counted out in a sitting position on the ropes)

Total through 10 completed rounds: 48-42 Harada (actual scores: 49-46, 49-41 and 50-38 all for Harada) - as usual in the Orient, scores were along party lines. The Thai judge had it closest, the Japanese judge had it the widest and the neutral judge - which was Nat Fleischer - had it the most realistic.

To begin, Harada was his usual force of nature, although not as refined as he would become in his peak bantamweight days. Kingpetch did not have the punch, but his sharp counters throughout the fight were impressive. It just wasn't going to be enough to stem the attack of Harada. Only in the 7th did I see Kingpetch actually go on the attack, and it worked. He really put that very effective overhand right of Harada's in check. It was clear to me it was a destructive weapon going forward, but not on the backfoot. However, by the end of the round Harada was back on the attack and didn't give up the position again and he slowly whittled down the resolve of Kingpetch. I enjoyed the fight.

 

Yeah, unfortunately Kingpetch just didn't have a punch.
Nice breakdown!

 

Unfortunately, I haven't seen these fights you scored yet. I did read your posts though.

 

Another from our FOTW.

Fighting Harada v Eder Jofre II (5 point must)

I totally loved this fight. With the first round - which I loved - I could see this was going to be one of those fights where we're riding a fine line on Jofre, the harder puncher or Harada, of the greater work rate. And many of these rounds were of the fine line variety. Nevertheless, here we go:

Round 1: 5-4 Harada
Round 2: 5-5 Even
Round 3: 5-4 Harada
Round 4: 5-4 Jofre
Round 5: 5-4 Harada
Round 6: 5-4 Harada
Round 7: 4-4 Even (I felt it was Harada's round, but he was deducted 1 point for butting)
Round 8: 5-4 Harada
Round 9: 5-4 Harada
Round 10: 5-4 Jofre
Round 11: 5-5 Even
Round 12: 5-4 Jofre
Round 13: 5-4 Harada
Round 14: 5-4 Harada (a more liberal judge may have said 5-3 for Harada due to a very dominant round)
Round 15: 5-4 Harada

Total: 71-65 Harada

Again, loved this fight. Harada's punch resistance was also as amazing as his engine. He took a looping right hand in the 8th that made me yell, "Whooaa!" His ability to keep Jofre on the ropes was also significant in his win. I gave Jofre rounds 10 and 12 because he kept the fight in mid ring those rounds and did well, but Harada was not to be denied and I thought he had his best round in the 14th where he grilled Jofre on the ropes. Just an outstanding bout of clean punching.

 

Manny Pacquiao vs Juan Manuel Marquez II​

Rounds Won/Even
Pacquiao - 1,3,4,7,9,10,12
Marquez - 5,6,8,11
Even - 2

Notes
- Knockdown in Round 3 (10-8 Pacquiao).
- Close 2nd round that could have gone to Marquez who finished strong, but Pacquiao controlled most of the round. Therefore, I scored it even.

My Scorecard
(P)116 - 112(M)
Winner: Pacquiao

Great fight. Competitive all the way through.A more tactical than their 1st, but nonetheless still brilliant with a lot of action & hard leather thrown (& landed). Both guys had cuts on their right eyes (Pacquiao due to a punch, Marquez due to an accidental headbutt in the 7th). They bled, sweat & paid the price for guts, glory & pride - giving the fans an entertaining night of action in an epic showdown once again.​

 

Nigel Benn vs Gerald McClellan ​

Rounds Won/Even
Benn -2,4,7,9
McClellan - 1,5,8
Even - 3,6

Notes
* McClellan scores a knockdown seconds into the opening round (10-8 McClellan).
*McClellan scores another knockdown in Round 8 (10-8 McClellan).
* Benn scores 2 knockdowns in Round 10 to win the fight after McClellan doesn't get up from the 2nd KD.
* I had it a draw by the time of the stoppage

My Scorecard
(B)86 - 86(M)
Winner: Benn via KO 10​

Review
An instant classic & historic fight between two brutal warriors. It had everything you'd want in a fight - action,drama & an exhilarating atmosphere. Non-stop action from beginning to end. The British crowd were enthusiastic & engaged with the fight from start to finish - rampantly cheering on their man Benn. Tragedy struck at the end for McClellan which is very sad & unfortunate - but we got an all-time classic & the greatest SMW fight to date.​

 

Jeff Harding v Dennis Andries 3

Not quite as intense as their first fight but this was still a fitting end to a fine series.

I had it a bit wider than the official scores. I thought Harding did the more consistent work and Andries attacks got increasingly ragged over the second half of the fight as he tired. He was looking for big, looping bombs to land but missed a lot. Harding, by contrast, kept his attacks in a tighter radius and went through the middle with straighter punches.

Harding is a bit like his countryman and namesake Jeff Fenech - he continues to come forward and use volume as his primary weapon in an attempt to overwhelm his opponent. My sense here was his conditioning wasn't quite the same as it was in the first fight they had but it was still pretty impressive. Hard by name and hard by nature.

1 9-10
2 9-10
3 10-9
4 10-9
5 10-9 (close and difficult to score. Harding with the more consistent output but Andries landed the bigger punches)
6 9-10 (close again)
7 10-9 (some excellent exchanges but Harding took it)
8 10-9 (Harding is landing more. Andries is trying to land bombs but missed a lot in that round)
9 9-10 (close)
10 10-9
11 10-9 (better quality from Harding. Andries looked ragged)
12 10-9

Harding 116-112 Andries

 

Jim Watt (champion) v Ken Buchanan for the British lightweight title - 5-4 3/4 British scoring in effect

Round 1: Buchanan
Round 2: Buchanan
Round 3: Watt
Round 4: Even
Round 5: Buchanan
Round 6: Watt
Round 7: Even
Round 8: Watt
Round 9: Buchanan
Round 10: Buchanan
Round 11: Watt
Round 12: Even
Round 13: Buchanan
Round 14: Buchanan
Round 15: Buchanan

Total: 74-73 Buchanan or 8-4-3 in rounds (actual score from the referee and sole arbiter: 74 1/4 - 72 1/2 or 10-3-2 in rounds)

Man, where do I start? I don't know why it took me so long to watch this fight. I recall reading about it in Ring back in '73 but just overlooked it until now. My loss, because this was an absolute cracker. I don't know if Buchanan was suffering from a bad case of "I've fought Duran, Laguna and Ortiz" and took him for granted (I don't know about that because he seemed in really good shape), or was it how he just had an issue with southpaws because he could not get out of the way of Watt's sharp right jab and his own jab looked sloppy. I wish I had film of myself the first time I fought a southpaw because it looked very similar to what I felt. A jab from the wrong angle popping me repeatedly in the head. For a finish I had to make it a donnybrook on the inside or get beat. And it appeared that's where Ken did his best work, but never extraordinarily dominant. This has to be a real case of, 'who is this guy?' Watt was a revelation. Never fought 15 rounds. The best guy he ever fought was - arguably - Leonard Tavarez. And he gave the ex-champ all he could handle. I can't say enough about this, except to say, do yourselves a favor and check it out. The film quality is terrific and worth your while. Incidentally, the only other poster that seems to have scored this was @natonic and he had it 9-5-1 in rounds for Ken.

 

A few observations (from the account, I’ve only seen bits and pieces of this but need to watch it in full):

1) Who the actual hell came up with a 5 to 4 3/4 scoring system? Only the Brits could overcomplicate something as simple as this. How they didn’t go for 8 7/16ths to 7 9/16ths is a miracle.

2) Being a southpaw myself, it was always interesting sparing with guys who would have no problem with my style/angle and who would be befuddled. Sometimes the better fighters had more problem. Big guys too for some reason, always had my best work against guys who were over 200 when I was like in the 170s. Even went a round with Pinklon Thomas and while I was much smaller (and not as good period) I landed my jab at will and his was off the mark (although at the end he cracked me a right to the belly that completely deflated me and came over with a right to the jaw that cracked it, haha). But someone with almost no experience sometimes would just give it no thought — probably didn’t even know what a southpaw was, lol — and just walk in and start landing.

3) I take it Watt hadn’t mastered the ‘Glasgow Kiss’ head butt at this point, so was still in his developmental stages.

 

After Buchanan v Watt I wanted to check out Watt's defense against Howard Davis, but I couldn't find it out there. If anyone has a link I'd appreciate it. Nevertheless, with Davis in mind, I did find his bout with Norman Goins, which I missed first time around. So here we go - Indiana is using the 10 point must, so thank God, none of that 5 - 4 3/4 scoring that @Saintpat and I just love.

Howard Davis v 'Stormin' Norman Goins

Round 1: 10-8 Goins (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Davis
Round 4: 10-9 Davis
Round 5: 10-8 Goins (scores a knockdown)
Round 6: 10-9 Goins
Round 7: 10-9 Davis
Round 8: 10-9 Davis
Round 9: 10-8 Davis (scores a knockdown)
Round 10: 10-9 Davis

Total: 95-93 Davis (actual scores: 98-91, 96-94 and 98-94 all for Davis)

It was a decent fight with a fair bit of drama. I would question referee Jay Edson's count in the 9th. I really don't think Goins beat that count. I would also question the timekeeper. That 9th round was long and the 10th was short. But it didn't detract too much for me. This was Davis' baptism of fire in the pros. As for the scoring, only the 96-94 made any sense to me. But it is what it is.

 

I scored this fight 6.831 to 5.1992 2/3 on the French Colonial Avoirdupois system. (g)

Odd that Watt-Davis isn’t available as I’m pretty sure I’ve come across it a time or three searching videos.

I would suggest, if you have time, a dandy of a match between Howard Davis Jr and Vilomar Fernandez. (Did anyone ever look good against Vilomar?) It’s a chess match and an interesting one with two natural boxer types taking turns, to some degree, of playing the role of slugger/aggressor.