the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Loads of these guys watch modern boxing.

But they're more likely to see Derry Matthews-Scott Lawton or John Simpson-Stephen Smith (robbed) for the simple reason that they are on at 10 on tv in Britain, not 4a.m on an internet stream, which we wouldn't look at anyway because it's illegal

Also, these gentlemen have the good grace not to talk about such fights on Classic

Can't speak for the Americans...

 

nah, i know what you mean.

I got to tell you though, the way I watch modern boxing has become way, way more relaxed. There are only a half dozen fighters I will wait into the middle of the night for, and they are the ones I am a fan off who are also in significant fights.

 

Agree with most of this. I actually had it even after six and although it always felt like Mitchell was doing better over this spell, I don't see a card with Mitchell behind at the half way point as the end of the world...unless you meant Duke actually had McDonell winning?! I don't see how that could even be possible tbh, that would be mad.

Because as you say, Mitchell takes over big-time. I think it was a combination of several things, certainly conditioning was probably not one of them. Body shots played a factor. Even when Mitchell was losing rounds, he was landing body-shots that looked painful and sapping. Secondly, the pressure may have taken its toll. Mitchell is relentless. Third, McDonnell was actually being made to miss a fair bit even when he was fresh, by Mitchell's defence which doesn't recieve the attention it deserves. He shows good, varied head movement and i couldn't see any pattern - he presents a genuinely akward tartet from this point of view. As he inevitably tires, he becomes less accurate naturally. I think his more aggressive approach can be excused - indeed it paid divedends in the 11th and very nearly the 12th.

I agree with your one-gear point concerning Mitchell. He looks lke he's fighting 15, doesn't he?


MITCHELL: 1,2,3,7,8,9,10,12

MCDONNELL: 4,5,6,11


8-4 Mitchell.

 

Ricardo Lopez UD12 Kyung-Yun Lee.

I think this is an interesting fight for Lopez because we have a swarming, rough-housing opponent who wants to get all the way inside to break El Finito up. There's lots of "infighting", which for Lopez tends to constitute holding until the referee breaks them, but he does sometimes make space for punches at a middlish sort of looking range, and he does contain Lee very nicely in one way or another (including with some of his own rougher stuff). I think the "no infighting" thing is overstated a little bit when it comes to Lopez, though he doesn't exactly cover himself in glory here.

Lopez also copes well with his opponents infringments. Sometimes you wonder about his temprament a bit -whatever Showtime's sycofantic commentary might insist upon- but he does show a cool head here against a nasty line in headbutts with a pertty appauling refereee.

Of course, there is a caveat as there are with almost all Lopez opponents, and Lee does not have the size power, accuracy or cunning to really upset Ricardo. I just think Lee is an interesting poor-man's foil for certain names that get bandied about on the forum as shoe-ins to beat the little champ...because at the end of the day, a shut out is a perfectly reasonable card. I gave Lee only one round, the 8th. The judges had it 120-107, 118-110 and somehow 116-112.

 

I actually find him OK as a commentator...and I think he was a wee bit underated as a fighter too. But I agree, that is nonsense that card. He also accused Mitchel of being a "face first fighter" which I found astonishing.

But he was active, and thought highly of his fellow Brit. A wee pass may be in order.

I found the great Harry Carpenter's commentary more offensive, for a man who prided himself on his even-handedness (up until "get in there Frank!" after which he had to admit his bias) that was extremely partisan.

Have you uploaded this one? I think I will if you haven't.