the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Jerry Quarry vs George Chuvalo

1 Quarry
2 Chuvalo
3 Chuvalo
4 Quarry
5 Quarry
6 Chuvalo
7 Chuvalo wins by KO

57-57

Competitive fight Quarry in the rounds he won was able to use his quicker hands, and counter punching to out box Chuvalo. In the rounds Chuvalo won he surprisingly showed a good jab, and was able to rough up Quarry on the inside.

Going into the 7th i had it all square, at the end of the 7th round Quarry seemed to have Chuvalo a little hurt. And as Quarry went in to press the advantage, Chuvalo countered with a hard left hook that dropped Quarry. Quarry got up too quickly and was still dazed so he decided to take a knee. But Quarry stayed down too long and was rightfully counted out, which was unfortunate but it was his own fault so he could have no complaints.

Overall a decent competitive fight, but a little unfortunate for Quarry he lost track of time when he was on one knee.

 

Jerry Quarry vs Mac Foster

1 Foster
2 Foster
3 Foster
4 Quarry
5 Quarry
6 Quarry winner by TKO

58-57 Foster

I thought Foster controlled the fight early on with his jab, he also rocked Quarry in round 3 with a good right hand. But after a slow start from Quarry, he started moving his head more taking away Foster's jab. And was able to land some crunching body shots, the body shots are what turned it around for Quarry.

At the end of the 5th round Foster was getting worn out from the body shots, and you could see the writing was on the wall for Foster as he was badly hurt at the end of the 5th round. Quarry stepped it up even further in the 6th round, handing out a beating to Foster. Foster fell through the ropes and referee rightly waves the fight off.

Another decent competitive fight, but after the 5th round you could tell this was Quarry's fight.

 

D, if you're on a Quarry kick, check out his bout with Lyle. Magnificent performance.

 

Iran Barkley v Adolfo Washington

I saw this fight was out there and I don't like to read up on a fight before watching it as I wish to be surprised and not waiting for a hammer to fall. Well, in this case it backfired on me. So we can say, 'Surprise!'

This fight was only about 8 months on from Barkley's super middleweight title loss to James Toney. Yet, somehow he packed on about 40 pounds onto his frame and it didn't look good. Having looked like he trained at Arby's for the last few months, Barkley showed nothing in this fight. He was gassing in the second round and took a steady, hard jab from Washington as well as an assortment of body-shots and combos to the head causing his left eye to be closed shut by the 5th. Eddie Mustafa Muhammad mercifully pulled out his man Barkley in the 6th and I had given Washington every round for a 50-45 score after 5 completed rounds. Hard to believe Barkley went on to have about 25 more fights because he looked done like dinner in this fight. He actually went on to fight for another title not long after this fight against Henry Maske. But clearly they were only using him for his name. Washington, on the other hand, went on to win an ABC strap for a brief period. If one wishes to watch this fight, let's call it an Adolfo Washington highlight reel. Because it certainly wasn't competitive.

 

Still had me a hankering for some Iran Barkley today, but this time I watched a couple of his fights that could clearly be called his prime at middle when all cylinders were firing. So here we go.

Iran Barkley v Wilford Scypion (scoring on rounds basis)

Round 1: Barkley
Round 2: Barkley
Round 3: Scypion
Round 4: Barkley
Round 5: Barkley
Round 6: Barkley
Round 7: Even
Round 8: Barkley KOs Scypion

Total through 7 completed rounds: 5-1-1 Barkley (scores unknown)

This was the fight that put Iran Barkley on the map. It was a good fight. Scypion was in every round and I would have given him the 8th had it finished. However, he leaned back slightly and Barkley caught him right on the point of the chin and he was done. The only thing that detracted me on this was the poor quality of film.


Iran Barkley v Jorge Amparo

Round 1: 10-9 Barkley
Round 2: 10-9 Barkley
Round 3: 10-9 Barkley
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-8 Barkley (scores a knockdown)
Round 6: 10-9 Amparo
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Amparo
Round 9: 10-9 Barkley (scores a knockdown)
Round 10: 10-9 Amparo

Total: 97-94 Barkley (actual scores: 96-94, 96-94 and 98-90 - although boxrec has it as 96-90)

This was a terrific fight - well worth anyone to watch. Unlike the Scypion fight, this film was pristine. Barkley weathered a heavy storm after being severely cut in the 6th. Amparo was tough as nails, but was more of a clubbing puncher. If he had a sharper punch he may have ended this. The announcers railed about the knockdowns, calling them slips in the heavy rain, but I thought they were both legit. You have to read the body language and look at the replays. IMO both legit. I think Bernstein had Amparo winning but he left things late. One more thing, I scored the 9th 10-9 because I would have given the round to Amparo if not for the knockdown. Barkley just didn't do enough that round for a 10-8 IMO. Anyways, again, terrific fight.

 

Just watched Iran Barkley vs Jorge Amparo as i'm a fan of Barkley, and i've never seen Amparo fight so i was curious to see this.

Iran Barkley v Jorge Amparo

1 Barkley
2 Barkley
3 Barkley
4 Amparo
5 Barkley knockdown
6 Amparo
7 Amparo
8 Amparo
9 Barkley knockdown but only 10-9
10 Amparo

95-94 Barkley

So this was a fun fight with the 3rd round being far and away the best round of the fight, and a candidate for round of the year as both men just slugged it out for the entire 3 minutes.

I was very impressed with Amparo's toughness i haven't seen many fighters, being able to stand toe to toe and go hook for hook with Barkley.

The knockdowns wern't really that effective or heavy, the 1st one seemed like more a slip. And the 2nd one Amparo got too wild and just walked into a punch and didn't even look fazed. And i agreed with you it was only 10-9 as Amparo controlled the round, and Barkley didn't do much.

It was quite weird to see Barkley in final few rounds trying to stay out of harms way, i don't like to say running but he certainly wasn't looking to engage and was looking to survive.

Just a few pointers i looked at Amparo's record and was surprised to see he ended up 8-15, that record really doesn't do him justice. I see he was having very tough fights while only having few professional fights. Like he fought 15-0 John Jarvis in his pro debut, Mike Tinley in his 6th pro fight, 32-0 James Kinchen in his 7th pro fight, and some of these losses were split decisions or draws. Which is very impressive considering the lack of experience, and also see he went the distance with Nigel Benn also another impressive feat.

Sometimes you get journeyman fighters who just look to survive, and go the distance against name fighters. Now i haven't seen alot of Jorge Amparo, but judging from Iran Barkley fight he certainly didn't seem like that type of opponent. And the 8-15 really does not do him justice. Had he had easier fights early on his career, and got some the close decisions, who knows how his record would of turned out.

 

D, I too noted on my card for the 3rd round, "Best Round"

 

Roberto Duran: The Lost Years

Chapter 3

Continuing my series on the Hands of Stone in the period between his ‘no mas’ loss to Ray Leonard and his revival two years later when he beat Davey Moore.

Wilfred Benitez (c) vs. Roberto Duran, scheduled for 15 rounds on Jan. 30, 1992, in Caesars Palace Sports Pavilion in Las Vegas for the WBC super welterweight title. This is Duran’s third fight on the rebound, following points wins over Nino Gonzalez and Luigi Minchillo. HBO televises.

Duran, 30, is 72-2 (55) and weights 152 1/2. He is the WBC’s No. 1-ranked contender and is making $500K for the bout.

Benitez, 22, is 43-1-1 (26) and weighs 152 1/4. He is a 9-5 favorite. His purse is $1.4M.

1. 10-9 Benitez (close): Wilfred lands a stinging right, not much else happens.

2. 10-9 Duran (close): Does some good body work with Wilfred hanging out on the ropes.

3. 10-9 Benitez: Wilfred finds a home for his right lead and also works the body well when he follows.

4. 10-9 Benitez: Duran shows a bit of spark late in the round but Wilfred’s combinations and body work take it.

5. 10-9 Benitez: More of the same from Wilfred. Duran can’t hit him.

6. 10-9 Duran: Slow round but Roberto lands his most telling blows, a right hand and a left hook.

7. 10-9 Duran: This is the most Duran-like round we see from him as he fights aggressively and works Wilfred over on the ropes pretty good. At this point I have it 4-3 in rounds in Bentiez’s favor but Roberto has the momentum. Duran sustains a cut along his right eye. It will bleed in a few rounds but not become a factor.

8. 10-9 Benitez: Wilfred keeps the fight at a distance, landing clean shots. He also works well inside. He has regained control of the fight.

9. 10-9 Benitez: More singular clean shots from Wilfred, and he’s better working off the ropes.

10. 10-9 Benitez: One of Wilfred’s best round, he fights mostly from the outside and bullies Robert.

11. 10-9 Benitez: Similar to the preceding round.

12. 10-9 Benitez: He rocks Duran with a right hand and just seems too strong for his opponent. Duran lands one right hand late but that’s about it. Wilfred is cut outside his left eye but it doesn’t become a factor.

13. 10-9 Duran (close): Not much happens here but Roberto edges it with some good body work.

14. 10-9 Benitez: He’s busier and stronger.

15. 10-9 Benitez: Wilfred fights most of the round out of the corner and rakes Roberto over.

My score: Benitez 146-139. Official scores: 143-142, 144-141, 145-141. The Associated Press had is 147-138 and UPI 148-139, both of which are way closer to reality than the official scores.

Not really sure what to say about Roberto here. First off, credit Benitez — his defense as El Radar is well known but he also nullifies Duran when they’re in close. There’s just not much the challenger is able to do to get anything going. And Wilfred does some really good body work throughout.

Most of the rounds are defined by one or two singular, clean punches. And of course almost all of those are landed by Benitez.

This is the fight where Roberto was taken to training camp on a prison island in Panama to keep him from wandering off to party, like chaining a werewolf to a radiator or something. His weight is good and he was apparently around/below the 154 limit for the last three weeks going in, so hard to make any excuses for him there, even though he will later say he wasn’t in shape (how can he be on weight for the better part of a month and not be in shape?).

But he shows little fire. He largely circles around and seems content to let Benitez dictate the distance and terms. I think Wilfred discouraged him because Roberto’s usual stuff — right leads, then leaning in and attacking the body — just wasn’t working.

This is the fight he had to want. His motivation is to get a third fight with Leonard, and he’s got to win this to do it. (Side note, Ray will fight Bruce Finch two weeks after this but then retire with a detached retina … but at the time of this fight a rematch for the winner seems to be on the table.) It’s also his third-highest career payday, even if Wilfred is making more as champion. But with everything on the line we get a docile Duran who eventually settles in where it’s almost like he wants to prove he can lose without quitting. Barry Tompkins makes a telling statement on commentary when he says, late in the fight, that Duran hasn’t embarrassed himself — because that’s about the best you can say for him.

It’s a puzzling chapter in Duran’s journey. Probably a lot of it has to do with Wilfred just being a bad matchup for him and also being the bigger, stronger guy and pretty much at his peak.

But this isn’t rock bottom for Roberto. That’s still to come.

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Pat, @Showstopper97 and I recently scored this bout. He had it 147-140 and I had it 148-139 both for Benitez. So, we're all in the same realm, except for the officials working the fight.

 

I gave Duran four rounds but two of them were very close and could have gone the other way or been even. There’s only two that I can say he unquestionably won in my eyes.

I’m more interested in seeing (and researching) the story arc between No Mas and Davey Moore, as well as how bad or good he was in between.

In this fight he looked at times puzzled, complacent and cautious — like he was worried if he went all out Wilfred might turn it up on him or he might run his tank empty and not see completion. For a guy who kept saying repeatedly he just wanted another shot at Leonard, this was the one he had to win to get it (at the time it seemed at least) and he just didn’t ever lay it on the line.

And that’s with Ray Arcel back in his corner, too, which I failed to mention. Ray put aside his embarrassment and disappointment of the second Leonard fight to come back and even he couldn’t light a fire under Duran. Afterward he wrote a letter to Duran basically saying they both should retire.

 

Crawford vs Beltran

I was really hyped for this fight at the time.

Crawford has done enough to be considered the best LW in the world and Beltran was the next best as he'd been shamefully robbed against Burns.

Now I had this a shut out, but Beltran was very good here. He pressed well, he threw with bad intentions and he forced Crawford onto the back foot numerous times.

But Crawford fought so well on the back foot, and was so accurate with his punches, I couldn't justify a single round for Beltran.

Top performance this against a top opponent.

 

This fight illustrates just how good Crawford is because, as you noted, he’s fighting a really good fighter who fought well … and still couldn’t accomplish anything.

 

Yeah Beltran gave Burns absolute fits with his strength and power, but he couldn't do anything against Crawford.

 

Mando Ramos v Ultiminio "Sugar" Rojas

This 1970 bout at the Olympic Auditorium was Mando's first fight after losing his lightweight title to Ismael Laguna. Sugar, nearing the end of his career, was coming off a win over former featherweight belt holder Raul Rojas. Ring announcer Jimmy Lennon Sr. said the winner earns a shot at Laguna's title. That didn't happen because Kenny Buchanan took the belt from Laguna the following month. The fight was scored on the rounds system.

This video, part of the "Boxing Fights Collection" collection on YouTube has great color. There is also good sound but I am not sure what was happening. Los Angeles area staple Tom Kelly called the fight from ringside for the pre-fight and the first couple of rounds. Then, although you could always hear the ambient crowd noise, you only heard Kelly's announcing sporadically throughout the fight.

Round 1 - Mando - Good first round. Mando was caught a few times but his jab and a few hard right shots took the round.

Round 2 - Mando - Mando hurts Sugar early and presses his advantage. By the end of the round they are trading blows in a neutral corner. Good action all the way through.

Round 3 - Sugar - What a great round. Sugar on the attack early and throughout. Mando bleeding from the left eye fights back and by the end is battering Sugar.

Round 4 - Mando - Pace slows a bit here but Mando landed the most meaningful punches of the round.

Round 5 - Mando - Both men used their jab to great effect but it was Mando who combined it with hard rights to take the round.

Round 6 - Mando - Another close round. Lots of action but Mando landing the cleaner, harder shots.

Round 7 - Sugar - Best round of the fight for Sugar. He was able to keep the fight on the inside and battered Mando for close to a minute, including some beautiful uppercuts.

Round 8 - Even - After his seventh round battering Mando went into boxing mode to try and stay away from Sugar. Overall, it was effective but Sugar did enough damage to keep the round close.

Round 9 - Sugar - Great action. For me this was a quantity over quality round. Mando landed the best shots but Sugar landed well throughout the frame.

Round 10 - Mando - Both fighters looked tired but Mando landed numerous good head shots to take the round.

My score 6-3-1 Mando

Actual score was a split decision for Mando Ramos 4-5-1, 5-4-1, and 6-5 (Boxrec incorrectly says 7-6) I can't be sure but I believe the 6-5 score means Judge Dick Young had it 5-5 but overall felt Mando won the fight. If someone can clarify, that would be great.

This was an action-packed fight and I highly recommend you find the time to watch it.

 

I thought Beltran got robbed against Burns.