the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Recently, we've had a bit of discussion on this forum on Mario Martinez. Well, I found this, which I had never seen, and needed to check it out.

    Mario Martinez v Rolando Navarrete (10 rounds)

    Round 1: 10-9 Martinez
    Round 2: 10-9 Martinez
    Round 3: 10-8 Martinez (scores a knockdown)
    Round 4: 10-9 Martinez
    Round 5: Martinez stops Navarrete

    Total through 4 completed rounds: 40-35 Martinez (scores unknown)

    To begin, Navarrete, the former 130 lb. champ, came in very fit. But he fought sloppily, almost arrogantly, like he had nothing but disdain for this 18 year old kid in front of him. Well he paid the price. Martinez couldn't miss with his lead rights on the southpaw Navarrete and aside from when Martinez would get sucked in on the inside, where Navarrete would rough him up, he dominated throughout. This was Navarrete's last bout before going to prison for 4 years on a **** conviction.
     
  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ryhmes with 'Tape'
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Joshua vs Povetkin

    This fight was far more competitive than I remembered it being.

    Povetkin had some real success getting inside and countering Joshua.

    Joshua keeps his composure though and manages to start tagging Povetkin from range, ultimately knocking him out.

    Very good scrap and really underlines Joshua's place at the top of the division, as well as underlining his vulnerability.

    Wlad dropped him, Whyte and Pov hurt him.

    As big a shock as the Ruiz loss was, its amazing how much evidence there was that this was coming.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you skip over Ruiz or did I just miss it? I got a good chuckle out of it at the time.
     
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  5. Fogger

    Fogger Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I didn't realize they fought each other. Thanks for bringing this one up. Hard to score this fight in any other way than how you scored it. Martinez fought well and, as you said, Navarrete was sloppy. Two notes, that sure is a young sounding 25 year old Jimmy Lennon Jr introducing the fighters and I thought it was a perfectly timed stoppage by referee Marty Denkin.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ruiz is next up
     
  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agree on all counts.
     
  8. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jel, although never having put pen to paper on this one, I recall seeing your post and had it penciled in for awhile. Here we go:

    Muhammad Ali v Joe Frazier III (heavyweight title) 5 point must system in effect

    Round 1: 5-4 Ali
    Round 2: 5-5 Even
    Round 3: 5-4 Frazier
    Round 4: 5-4 Ali
    Round 5: 5-4 Ali
    Round 6: 5-4 Frazier
    Round 7: 5-4 Ali
    Round 8: 5-4 Frazier
    Round 9: 5-4 Frazier
    Round 10: 5-5 Even
    Round 11: 5-4 Ali
    Round 12: 5-4 Frazier
    Round 13: 5-4 Ali
    Round 14: 5-4 Ali
    Round 15: Frazier's corner retires him just before the bell for 15

    Total through 14 completed rounds: 65-63 Ali (actual scores: 66-62, 66-60 and 67-62 all for Ali)

    Peering through a pair of impartial eyes rather the eyes of an Ali fan, which I was, this fight was damn close. What made it closer in my eyes than say that of Don Dunphy is that Ali may have started a round well, but invariably ended up on the ropes where Frazier was at home. You can do that against a Foreman, but Frazier was more machine than human and would just pound you all day. I felt Joe would steal a round while Ali was dawdling on the ropes. That's in my view anyway. I probably didn't think that way in '75, but I gotta call them the way I see them. Good revisiting the Thrilla.
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting point on Ali rope-a-doping and how it was perceived then vs. now (though the same eyes even).

    People watch some of Ali’s fights today and don’t see how he won vs. Shavers or Young. Watching then it seemed pretty plain to me (and more recently I still think he edged Shavers and cannot abide giving a man a fight where he literally ducks through the ropes to avoid punches).

    It’s a matter of perception. And also in those days it was the norm to give the champion the round if it was close — the idea was you had to take the title from the champion, not that they walked into the ring with blank slates. There’s a long period of time where the heavyweight title simply did not change hands by decision.

    You can argue that it shouldn’t have been that way, but that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t that way.
     
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  10. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Tae Shik Kim vs Antonio Avelar
    It was a great short fight. Tae Shik Kim again competed in a brutal two round slugfest.

    Round 1: Just like in his fight against Ibarra, he went in attacked 100% offensively firing multiple combinations to the body and to the head onto his opponent. They both exchange in a high paced slugfest that got the crowd cheering. - Kim

    Round 2: Kim again went in aggressively attacking his opponent, but this time he went to the body more. Avelar had to wether a murderous assault but quickly came back with non stop punches to Kim's head scoring heavily with left hooks, right hooks and uppercuts. A left hook would ultimately end the fight as Kim quickly turn his back while shooking his head, signaling the referee that he wants no more. Avelar came with a left hook from behind and drop Kim flat on the canvas. The fight ended with Kim on the floor, dead tired and unable to continue. - Knockout

    It was a terrific fight and I highly recommend you watch it now:
     
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've often heard about this fight but great actually seeing it. Terrific fight. I wonder what size those gloves were? Gloves should be commensurate with the weight class, but these looked like mittens on the two fighters.
     
  12. Minotauro

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    Bobby Chacon vs Bazooka Limon 4
    Love this fight just a great back and fourth real war. Some of the round Bazooka started well and Chacon ended well.

    Round 1: 10 -10 Even
    Round 2: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 3: 10- 8 Limon
    Round 4: 10- 9 Limon
    Round 5: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 6: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 7: 10- 9 Limon
    Round 8: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 9: 10 - 9 Chacon (could have been 10-8)
    Round 10: 10- 8 Limon
    Round 11: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 12: 10- 9 Limon
    Round 13: 10 - 9 Chacon (another big round for Bobby)
    Round 14: 10 - 9 Chacon
    Round 15: 10 - 8 Chacon

    143 - 140 Chacon. Epic fight love re-watching every now and then, great finish too.
     
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  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Re-watched a couple Roman Gonzales fight his first fight with Sor Rungvisai and second fight with Estrada.

    Round 1: 10 - 8 Sor Rungvisai
    Round 2: 10 - 9 Sor Rungvisai
    Round 3: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 4: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 5: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 6: 10 - 8 Gonzalez (point deduction headbutts)
    Round 7: 10 - 9 Sor Rungvisai
    Round 8: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 9: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 10: 10 - 9 Sor Rungvisai
    Round 11: 10 - 9 Sor Rungvisai
    Round 12: 10 - 9 Gonzalez

    114 - 112 Gonzalez did the better work appeared to be a lot more accurate but close fight.

    Gonzales vs Estrada 2

    Round 1: 10 - 9 Estrada
    Round 2: 10 - 10 Even
    Round 3: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 4: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 5: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 6: 10 - 9 Estrada
    Round 7: 10 - 9 Estrada
    Round 8: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 9: 10 - 9 Estrada
    Round 10: 10 - 9 Gonzalez
    Round 11: 10 - 9 Estrada
    Round 12: 10 - 9 Gonzalez

    115 - 114 Gonzalez again close fight although Estrada at the end did not look confident he did enough. Great fight.
     
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  14. Jel

    Jel Reserving the right to be inconsistent Full Member

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    I think this is the fourth fight, right? Unbelievable war.
     
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  15. OP_TheJawBreaker

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    Jeff Harding vs Tom Collins
    Round 1: Harding unexpectedly dropped Collins in the first round. Collins got up and had to wether the assault, and in the last 14 seconds of round 1.. Harding threw a 30 punch combination to the body and to the head. Collins shelled up effectively and the bell sounds ending a furious round one - Harding

    Round 2: Harding came to Collins and they had a quick exchange but Collins would later stagger Harding twice badly once with a right hand on top and once with a left hook. Harding tho wobbled, still showed willingness to trade and the two would compete in a grueling round 2 - Collins

    Round 3: RTD. Collins was unable to continue.

    Thoughts: It was a great war. Very underrated, short fight with lots of back and forth action. I again highly recommend to watch it now considering the fight only lasted two rounds. Here it is: