the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

I scored JLR-Arguello on this thread sometime back (can’t recall when, last year or two) and IIRC I had him winning by two points. I didn’t think it was a runaway but not particularly close.

Same fight against Joe Blow and JLR wins the decision. AA’s name recognition won him some rounds with friendly judges.

 

Jack Catterall vs Josh Taylor. I posted the results in the British column.

 

We put these cards together a little while ago. While we had varying tallies, we all had Ramirez ahead at the end. AA got lucky.

 

I remember we all had this discussion awhile ago, and we pretty much agreed Ramirez deserved the nod vs Arguello. I've only seen the fight once, I'll watch it again soon and do a proper scorecard, to see if my opinion has changed.

 

Got around this morning to view Ingle's bout with Medina. Here we go....

Manuel Medina v Paul Ingle (featherweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Ingle
Round 2: 10-7 Ingle (scores 2 knockdowns)
Round 3: 10-9 Medina
Round 4: 10-10 Even
Round 5: 10-9 Medina
Round 6: 10-9 Ingle
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Medina
Round 9: 10-9 Ingle
Round 10: 10-8 Ingle (scores a knockdown)
Round 11: 10-9 Medina
Round 12: 10-8 Medina (scores a knockdown)

Total: 114-112 Ingle (actual scores: 113-111, 114-110 and a whopping 118-107 all for Ingle)

It looks like that last score, that only the 12th was awarded to Medina and probably only because he had to. But having said that, it was difficult (for me) to score, only because the film wasn't exactly hi-def and Medina is such a non-puncher that it was difficult for me to assess delivery and impact. A ringside seat or hi-def viewing and I would likely have a different score. But it is what it is. Still, a good fight with a lot of drama with the knockdowns and the blood-letting involved. Ingle was a deserving winner until he almost frittered it away in the final round playing to the crowd. Amazingly, Ingle would only have two more fights, whereas Medina would go on to win a portion of the world title twice more. He clearly had the keys to the IBF vault or pictures of the IBF president in a compromising position. Man, he was always fighting for their title.

 

Yep here's my $0.02

 

Wilfredo Gomez vs Lupe Pintor

12/3/1982 - WBC Super Bantam Title

Round 1: 10-9 Gomez
Round 2: 10-9 Gomez
Round 3: 10-9 Pintor. Great close round.
Round 4: 10-9 Pintor
Round 5: 10-9 Gomez. Close one. A lot of ring craft in play in there.
Round 6: 10-9 Pintor. I thought it was an even round but Gomez got a point deduction for an elbow.
Round 7: 10-9 Gomez
Round 8: 10-10 Even.
Round 9: 10-9 Gomez. Gomez looks tired and beat up but Pintor not throwing enough shots.
Round 10: 10-9 Pintor
Round 11: 10-9 Gomez. Great round.
Round 12: 10-10 Even. Gomez had it until he totally gassed out in the last few seconds of the round. If the round was 20 seconds longer he Gomez could have been dropped.
Round 13: 10-9 Pintor
Round 14: Gomez drops Pintor twice and stops him.

My score entering the final round: 125-124 Gomez

Judges Scores entering the final round: 126-120 and 125-121 for Gomez and 124-123 Pintor. All reasonable in a fight like this.

Great fight great finish.

 

Gasper Ortega vs Benny Paret I

8/7/59

Scored on round system

Round 1: Ortega
Round 2: Ortega
Round 3: Ortega
Round 4: Paret. Close.
Round 5: Ortega
Round 6: Paret. Close.
Round 7: Even
Round 8: Paret
Round 9: Ortega. Close.
Round 10: Paret. Close.

My Score: 5-4-1 for Ortega

Judges Scores: 6-4 Paret, 6-4 and 5-4-1 for Ortega for Ortega SD

 

Scored this one on this thread I think a year or two ago and IIRC I had Gomez a bit more ahead than you (or the two one-point judges) but a lot of those rounds were really close.

What a fight.

Bazooka always seemed to have this weird stamina where his energy would come and go in waves. Or maybe he just let his body language tell too much when he was gassing and then he’d reach deep inside and find another reserve. But sometimes he looks exhausted … and then you realize he’s still winning the round handily.

We used to tell the guys in our gym — it’s not about getting tired … you’re going to get tired at some point if you box … it’s about what you do about it when you get tired and whether you give in to it. I don’t think Wilfredo ever gave in to fatigue.

 

Hands down one of my all-time favourite fights. Scorecards don’t matter in a fight like this one. One of those fights where the loser deserves almost equal credit to the winner.

 

One of my very favorite fights.

 

@Philly161 there’s a reason Ortega boxed on U.S. network primetime TV more than any other boxer in history. He always delivered.

 

Jung Koo Chang vs Katsuo Tokashiki

WBC World Light Flyweight Title

8/18/1984

Round 1: 10-8 Chang. Good round for Tokashiki until the knockdown
Round 2: 10-9 Chang. Wow what a round.
Round 3: 10-9 Tokashiki. Close. Chang landed some big shots but Tokashiki generally outpaced him.
Round 4: 10-10 Even. All time great round.
Round 5: 10-9 Chang. This is one of those rounds you want to call even because the other guy did a lot of great work, but I think Chang edged it.
Round 6: 10-9 Tokashiki
Round 7: 10-9 Chang. I've seen fights stopped for less but glad the ref didn't step in.
Round 8: 10-9 Chang. Very close.
Round 9: Chang stops Tokashiki on his feet

My card going into the final round: 78-74 Chang

Judges Cards: 77-74, 79-73, 78-73 all for Chang.

Another banger.

 

Unbelievable fight. You’re 100% right about round 4 - absolutely bananas.