the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Richie Sandoval KO8 Cardenio Ulloa

I hesitated to bother writing this one up, as rounds 5-7 are partially missing/truncated. I'd wondered about this one for some time, and was surprised by what a terrific little slugfest the available footage shows.

Sandoval is very well-schooled and fights in a fairly aggressive but measured and compact style, behind a high guard with everything flowing off the jab, as one might expect. Ulloa waits, then nails the champion with a hard right late in the round, staggering him. Sandoval floors Ulloa with a hard right of his own in the second, and seemingly takes charge.

Then in the third, a hard left hook sends Sandoval crashing down! This is getting fun! Wow, are these two chinny.

Sandoval then begins to take command at last in the fourth, and what I saw of the rest of it.

Gonna watch a couple more Sandoval yhings; he rarely gets mentioned, as his career was cut short by near tragedy against Canizales. The real story there I think is the insane number of non-title fights Sandoval had as champion, and how big he got for those efforts, as high as 130(!). In short, he had no business whatsoever fighting anymore as a bantamweight. He had to move up. Seeing the final fight with Canizales, one sees how truly zombielike he was, an empty shell. At least he leads a normal life now and it was only the end of a career and nothing more serious. He almost died that night.

 

Sal, I checked this out a couple of months back. It was fun. This is what I wrote:

Richie Sandoval v Cardenio Ulloa (bantamweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Ulloa
Round 2: 10-8 Sandoval (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-8 Ulloa (scores a knockdown)
Round 4: 10-9 Sandoval
Round 5: 10-9 Sandoval
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Sandoval
Round 8: Sandoval stops Ulloa

Total through 7 completed rounds: 67-65 Sandoval

Despite fighting on a canvas that was more akin to an ice rink than a boxing ring, the 2 fighters managed to put on a decent show. Ulloa was quite clearly a heavy-handed fighter, but his record - although very pretty at 27-0-1 - was berift of quality opponents. In fact, Sandoval was the very first fighter he fought who had a winning record, which will cause anyone to ask, 'How did he get here?' Amazingly, he later fought for the title again, again by avoiding anything with a pulse. But boxing politics aside, Ulloa had a good dig and rocked Richie in the first before dropping him in the third to make it a competitive fight.

 

Sal, did you ever see Sandoval's fight with Harold Petty? Very competitive and a crying shame that Petty never got a title shot. I think it's their second fight that is out there on youtube.

 

I've started the first couple rounds, the second fight anyway!

 

I will never rewatch Sandoval vs Canizales that was just pure brutality and hard to watch.

 

Yeah, Richie was just a ghost in there.

Gaby was very good of course and might have won without the weight issue but honestly anyone could hit a heavy bag, and that's all Sandoval was that night.

 

ROY JONES JR. VS MIKE McCALLUM
November 22, 1996 WBC Light-Heavyweight Title

Round 1: RJJ 9 - 10 MMc
Round 2: RJJ 9 -10 MMc
Round 3: RJJ 10 -10 MMc
Round 4: RJJ 9 - 10 MMc
Round 5: RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
Round 6: RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
Round 7: RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
Round 8: RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
Round 9 RJJ 10 -9 MMc
Round 10 RJJ 10 - 8 MMc
Round 11 RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
Round 12 RJJ 10 - 9 MMc
TOTAL : 117 - 111 RJJ
FSAC Judges: 120-107 RJJ by UD
WBC Judges: 116-111,119-109 and 117-110 all for RJJ

Sparring without headgear. Legalised bank robbery. An absolute stinker if you paid for a seat in the arena but its a guilty pleasure fight of mine. The WBC had the shi ts with FSAC for not having their judges score the fight (three floridians scoring a foridian fighting a foreigner in Florida) so they had three of their own in the crowd scoring the fight and their cards would decide where the belt went. The Bodysnatcher showed early on he was still a crafty bugger 2 weeks off his 40th birthday using his jab to pin Roy into corners and do some work to the body. After round 8 i believe Roy couldve finished this whenever he wanted to but probably just had too much respect for Mike and wanted Mike to be able to enjoy the payday lol. Mikes just grinning at all his corners instructions asking him to throw the straight right to the head more often as if to say "im throwing a jab and doing some body work every so often. THATS IT".Legend

 

Richie Sandoval W10 Harold Petty 2

This was aired on national TV with headliners sporting records of 13-0 and 8-1. Rare to see that then, with so little experience under their collective belts, but it proved to be well-fought and enjoyable.

Sandoval, the standout amateur, is far busier and jabs to the head while landing straight rights to the body to bring Petty's high southpaw guard down. Petty, fighting out of Dave Gorman's stable in Fort Worth, is solid and patient but simply waits too long.

Their first fight ( which would be good to see) apparently ended in a split verdict but Sandoval proved the better here. He went through a little mid-rounds fade (early signs of weight draining?) but came back busier than ever if not as sharp as the early rounds.

1. Sandoval
2. Sandoval
3. Sandoval
4. Sandoval
5. Petty
6. Sandoval
7. Petty
8. Sandoval
9. Sandoval
10. Petty

97-93 Sandoval

 

I agree with your analysis Jones carried McCallum in my view also, and could of stopped him but he respected the former great champion and allowed him to go the full 12.

 

Alfonso Ratliff v Elijah Tillery (NJ rounds basis)

Round 1: Ratliff
Round 2: Ratliff
Round 3: Ratliff
Round 4: Even
Round 5: Ratliff
Round 6: Ratliff
Round 7: Ratliff
Round 8: Ratliff
Round 9: Even
Round 10: Ratliff

Total: 8-0-2 Ratliff (actual scores: 8-2, 7-2-1 and 6-3-1 all for Ratliff)

Let me tell ya, this was a fun fight. I normally wouldn't waffle on about a cruiser or heavyweight contest but this is one I would recommend. Tillery came into this bout spouting a lot due to his facial resemblance to Ali and bragging how his style is a combo of Ali, Jack Johnson and Sugar Ray Leonard rolled into one. And at times he did have flashes of brilliance, but everything was in spurts. Ratliff, on the other hand, was as steady as they come. Steadily bombarding Tillery's body throughout the 10 rounds. He was also so straight-up that when Tillery did decide to throw a flurry, Ratliff would catch them all, which made for a fun fight. Several times I would say to myself, "OK, Tillery is going to take this round." But then his spurt would end, he would hit the off switch, and Ratliff would come back into the round. That happened several times throughout the bout. Clearly the judges gave some of those rounds to Tillery, but I was more impressed with Ratliff's steady bombardment. Funny thing to note was Ferdie Pacheco stated during the bout that Mickey Duff, sitting at ringside, came over between rounds and said to Pacheco and Albert, "I have a doctor that would make Tillery a great fighter. His name is Christaain Barnard." The line was funnier back in '82 when Barnard was more known to the general public as the doctor who performed the first heart transplant. One other thing to note was this was 1982 and announcers like Ed Derian still had not caught on to Jimmy Lennon's style of keeping an audience in suspense when announcing a decision. No one knew who won a fight with Jimmy until the last second. But here was Ed blurting out, "6-3-1 Ratliff, 8-2 Ratliff...." OK, Ed, you can stop right there. Everyone in the arena and on TV knows now that Ratliff won.

Forgive my babbling, guys, suffice to say I really enjoyed the fight and do recommend it.

 

McCallum relocated to Florida fairly early on, as an amateur. Pretty sure he was living in or around Miami at this time. He’s a member of the Florida Boxing Hall of Fame.

 

Richard Commey vs Jose Pedraza

Round 1: RC 9 - 10 JP
Round 2: RC 10 - 9 JP
Round 3: RC 10 - 9 JP
Round 4: RC 10 - 9 JP
Round 5: RC 9 - 10 JP
Round 6: RC 10 - 10 JP
Round 7: RC 9 - 10 JP
Round 8: RC 10 - 9 JP
Round 9 : RC 9 - 10 JP
Round 10 : RC 9 - 10 JP

TOTAL: 95-96 Jose Pedraza
Judges: Split Draw

Hard fight to score but i think the judges probably got it right, neither guy really reached for a win or capitalized on their success' enough to feel hard done by the decision. Pedraza laid his groundwork for a good latter half of the fight by conceding on activity to get his bodyshots in and sure enough it slowed Commey down massively in the final three rounds. Cant see either guy holding a belt again unfortunately but i do still think theres a couple good paydays ahead for them playing the gatekeeper role plus they could probably squeeze for re-run of this as an undercard fight on a Teo card.

 

I've never understood why some old time announcers deflated the drama of a decision by letting the cat out of the bag that way. Kind of annoying.

 

You said neither guy "reached for a win". That is very well said. In the RBR thread I had the fight 95-95 and you are so right. It was two quality boxers in their thirties who didn't have the energy, quickness or drive to impose themselves on the other man. That being said, it was an evenly contested, enjoyable fight to watch

 

James Toney (Champ) vs Mike McCallum (Challenger)

This 12-13-1991 bout was for the IBF middleweight belt Toney won earlier in the year with his stunning 11th round flattening of Michael Nunn.

Round 1 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 2 - 10-9 Toney
Round 3 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 4 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 5 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 6 - 10-9 Toney
Round 7 - 10-9 Toney
Round 8 - 10-9 Toney
Round 9 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 10 - 10-9 Toney
Round 11 - 10-9 McCallum
Round 12 - 10-9 Toney

114-114- a draw for me. Actual scores 116-112 Toney, 115-113 McCallum and 114-114 - Result was a draw.

This was an excellent fight between the young champion Toney and the top notch veteran McCallum.

Thanks to the Forum's own @George Crowcroft for posting this on YouTube.