the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Shane Cameron vs Roger Izonritei

Round 1: 10-9 Cameron. Close
Round 2: 10-10 even. Was leaning izon but Cameron won the last 30 seconds and is generally the aggressor. Timing the jab well.
Round 3: 10-9 izon. Close again but Camerons defense looking leaky that round.
Round 4: 10-8 Cameron. Drops roger near end of the round
Round 5: 10-7 Cameron. Don't think the 2nd knockdown was official but even without it Cameron beat him so badly it's a 10-7 round.
Round 6: 10-9 izon. Close but nice recovery by Roger.
Round 7: 10-8 Cameron. Ref shoulda stopped this fight tbh
Round 8: 10-9 Cameron. Izon looks like he's being held up on marionette strings how is he standing? Competitive round too
Round 9: 10-10. Great round.
Round 10: Cameron drops izon twice before the ref finally waves it off.

Score going into the final round: 87- 81 Cameron.

Exciting hw fight. Only had ever seen Cameron as a Tua opponent.

 

Is Izonreti any relation to former Tua opponent David Izonreti?

 

Yeah they're brothers. Tua fought Shane Cameron and David izonreti

 

Mustafa Hamsho WDQ10 Wilford Scypion

I usually can't stand fighters that grinningly flaunt their utter disregard for fair play. Call me a square but I prefer someone not cheat or showboat or act like a jackals. I like Hamsho though, go figure.

This was his first big-time fight, against a raw, 16-0 Scypion who frankly wasn't ready for this. He acquitted himself well though in spite of the weirdness surrounding this fight.

Scypion did better hammering the ever-onrushing Hamsho than the NBC crew was giving him credit for. I gave him a good share of the early rounds and had it to where Hamsho had to play serious catch-up to win. On my card at least, he did.

In the tenth and final round, with Hamsho pulling ahead on the cards and cut over and under his left eye, the twp became entangled as Scypion fell inside on failing legs, having been battered about the whole round. Hamsho shoved him aside, and the Texan fell through the ropes and out of the ring.

Confusion ensued, with the possibility of a KO win for Hamsho, DQ victory, oran outright no-contest all on the table. Turned out to be the DQ variety, which seemed about right. Hard, rough fight and difficult to score in spots.

1. Hamsho
2. Scypion
3. Scypion
4. Hamsho
5. Scypion
6. Scypion
7. Hamsho
8. Hamsho
9. Hamsho
10. Scypion is either flung out of the ring or falls out, and is DQ'd.

86-85 Hamsho at the time of DQ. Had the fight gone the full ten, Hamsho would have won, 96-94 on my card. He dominated the tenth, hurting Scypion.

 

Humberto Gonzalez W12 Jung Koo Chang

I've been meaning to see this one. Chang is on the comeback trail here, having lost his fortune to a swindling ex-wife. He is not the same electric force I've seen in previous efforts. The will is still there but his legs aren't the same. He used to jump in and out and create distance and move around opponents to make great punching angles but here he's reduced to lunging in and grappling with Gonzalez in an effort to keep him on the ropes and land enough to keep the rounds close. Gonzalez however is the one now creating punching room off the ropes and continually snaps the Korean's head back.

It's an interesting fight because despite the damage Gonzalez inflicts, he can't discourage Chang from forcing the fight and the Mexican champion spends much of his time against the ropes but his upper body movement and countering are superb. He routinely outscored Chang four and five to one. Gonzalez was so good in his time, so multi-faceted. The second Carbajal fight showed what an amazing boxer he was, and this reinforces my opinion.

1. Gonzalez
2. Gonzalez
3. Chang
4. Even
5. Gonzalez
6. Gonzalez
7. Gonzalez
8. Gonzalez
9. Gonzalez
10. Gonzalez
11. Gonzalez
12. Gonzalez

119-110 Gonzalez.

 

You're on a roll tonight it seems sal. I haven't seen this fight yet, so excuse my ignorance, if it is indeed protruding, but am I correct to understand that Scypion was DQ'd for the possibility that Mustafa Hamsho may have flung him out of the ring?

 

Seriously, how do you get DQ’d for being fouled?

 

I watched this a while back. The context of it was that Scypion was trying just to survive at that point of the fight and was initiating every clinch because he had no legs left.

He had already fallen over once as a result (but inside the ring) and was practically running towards Hamsho to hold him. Hamsho either get frustrated or took evasive action, depending on your perspective, and Scypion ending up bundling himself/being bundled out of the ring.

It’s not cut and dried in terms of blame but probably was six of one and half a dozen of the other in terms of that one incident. A NC probably would have made most sense but Hamsho would have had justification to feel hard done by as he was on his way to a clear win.

That’s my take on it, anyway.

 

I haven’t even seen it, but I’ve seen Hamsho commit enough fouls to know if he was ‘hard done by’ in one fight it wouldn’t even things out, haha.

 

Just rewatched the incident. Yeah, Scypion was just trying to survive at that point. I think Hamsho was taking evasive action because Scypion was desperately trying to hold on to him. It was a bit of a freak occurrence, for sure, but I don’t think in this case I’d blame Hamsho.

 

Definitely a fight of two halves, Scar, as reflected by your scoring. Mancini looked great early on but Bramble slowly edged his way into the fight and then took control.

Have you seen the rematch? Even better.

 

George Foreman v Dwight Muhammad Qawi

A 10 round heavyweight contest between 6’3 man mountain Foreman and the sub-5’7 fireplug Qawi. Mismatch? Not quite.

Remarkably, there was only a 4 year age gap between these two, Qawi at 35 and Foreman listed as 39.

Foreman started off cautiously as Qawi winged overhand rights and had success but it became clear by the end of the second that Foreman held the aces. He was just too big and strong, not to mention his obvious advantage in punching power. Qawi was incredibly game throughout but some of the punches he was hit with provoked reactions similar to Joe Frazier losing his title to the younger George a decade and a half earlier.

It probably should have been stopped at the end of the 6th by Qawi’s corner but Dwight took matters into his own hands by turning his back in round 7 and allowing the ref to wave it off on his behalf. Good decision.

 

Sometime during this fight Qawi feigns being hurt or going down, George turns to walk away and Qawi nails him. Dwight had a high boxing IQ for sure.

 

I know the bit you mean but I’m not sure he feigned it, it was just that Foreman thought it was over and Qawi recovered and took the opportunity.

That was the difference between Old George and Young Foreman. The younger model wouldn’t have stopped punching till Qawi was flat on his back looking up at the stars.

If you could take the killer instinct and youth of 70s Foreman and combine it with the mental toughness and IQ of the 90s version, you’d have an unbeatable fighter.

 

Even though it was two old guys, one badly out of shape, and both in different weight classes really, I always thought that was a really fun fight. It was eventful as hell at least, which often can't be said of fights like this.