the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Yeah, basically he was DQ'd for not being able to return to the ring in time. Cold, austere rule applied there but as you say he'd have lost anyway.

 

Is there a case for Mancini winning the rematch ? I haven't seen the fight in a long time. But I remember it being a close one.

 

No, I don’t think so. He fought better in the rematch but I thought it was still a fair win for Bramble.

 

Arturo Gatti W12 Tracy Harris Patterson (1)

This was Gatti's first title fight, and he made the most of it. As Gatti fights go, it was relatively devoid of fireworks and saw the challenger jab and move(!) No, seriously. He did pretty good job of it too. Make no mistake, this was still Gatti. He still got hit, he still swelled up. All that stuff. But he boxed his way to victory here, against a Tracy Harris Patterson that was even more frustrating to watch than Juan Laporte.

The champion simply refused to throw punches until the last two rounds. He waited on Gatti all night long, and if there's one thing you absolutely cannot do against Gatti, it's sit back and let him build up momentum. Hideous advice from his corner, if that was the plan.

Gatti made his presence known in the 2nd, when he dropped Patterson with a right uppercut. By the end of three, he had a nice little bit of breathing room and he fought in a relaxed, confident manner. And Patteron stalked and waited. Stalked and waited. Ugh.

By the late rounds, Gatti was tiring and his eyes were looking more and more swollen. Patterson only then turned up the heat, throwing punches as he should have been all along. Too little too late.

1. Gatti
2. Gatti (10-8)
3. Gatti
4. Patterson
5. Gatti
6. Gatti
7. Patterson
8. Gatti
9. Gatti
10. Gatti
11. Patterson
12. Patterson

116-111 Gatti.

 

Jel, I did, and you are right. This was my card and what I wrote the last time I saw it:

Livingstone Bramble v Boom Boom Mancini II (lightweight title)

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Mancini
Round 3: 10-9 Mancini
Round 4: 10-9 Bramble
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-9 Mancini
Round 7: 10-9 Bramble
Round 8: 10-9 Bramble
Round 9: 10-10 Even
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Bramble
Round 12: 10-9 Bramble
Round 13: 10-9 Mancini
Round 14: 10-9 Bramble
Round 15: 10-9 Bramble

Total: 146-143 Bramble (actual scores: 144-143, 143-142 and another 143-142 all for Bramble)

The first time I watched it live I had it a draw, just tallying it in my head. But pen-to-paper, I've got Bramble the winner. But, to tell you the truth, if I scored this fight again right now I'm sure my score would be different. Each round was contested so tightly. So great watching a real championship fight contested bitterly over 15 rounds.

 

Well said. I love your sentence. A lot of fights are hard to score and something that can catch our eye one time may not the next. In that same vein, having judges on three different sides of the ring can produce three very different, legitimate viewpoints and scores.

 

Checked out a couple of Frank Tate fights today. Watched him several times back in the day including his gold medal winning effort against Shawn O'Sullivan. Never really gave him the props he deserved but here we go:

Frank Tate v Curtis Parker (rounds scoring basis)

It pained me to watch this because I was such a Curtis Parker fan back then (and still am). But Parker's style - like fighters such as Frankie Warren, 'Chillin' Charley Riley, James Green - all burn out early. And Parker was fighting on memory by this time. He got in his licks but Tate showed that this is always going to be a young man's game and when he kept the fight ring-center, he controlled the action. He even had no problem engaging Parker at close quarters. His left was much more than a point-getter and when he utilized his overhand right one got the feeling this might end early, but Parker hung fast. I only gave Parker a share of rounds 4 & 9 for an 8-0-2 score for Tate (actual scores: 8-2, 8-2 and 10-0 all for Tate).

Frank Tate v Tony Sibson (middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Sibson
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Sibson
Round 4: 10-9 Tate
Round 5: 10-9 Tate
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Sibson
Round 8: 10-9 Tate
Round 9: 10-9 Tate
Round 10: Tate KOs Sibson

Total through 9 completed rounds: 87-86 Tate (actual scores: 87-84, 87-84 and 88-83 all for Tate)

Like the Parker fight, Tate's ranginess against the shorter opponent - along with that long overhand right again - made Tate such a dangerous proposition. Sibbo's combos forestalled the inevitable, as this was an aging Sibbo, but Tate lowered the boom so succinctly in the 10th with that right. Man, the fight, which was held in England had a cantankerous crowd that fell silent when Sibbo was poleaxed. This was the era where hooliganism reigned at some of these fights. Indeed, a can of tear gas was let off in the ring before this contest causing many issues with ringsiders including the aging Henry Cooper, who was doing ringside commentary. Wasn't sure how the reaction was going to be but it went no further.

 

I had completely forgotten that Sibbo ever fought Tate. Love Sibson but at this stage the ending vs. a sharpshooter like Tate was a foregone conclusion.

 

Thomas Hearns KO13 Randy Shields

Shields is remarkable in that he's very canny at slipping punches and has a ridiculous chin. Anyone that goes the full 15 with Cuevas and then go 12 with Hearns and get stopped only because your face fell off can just flat out take it.

Hearns' best tool here was his speed. The power only served to shove Shields back occasionally but the quick flurries had him winning every round. Shields was never really in the fight, having a pitiable offense. He's a pure spoiler, and while Hearns didn't look bad here, it certainly wasn't the result he'd hoped for. Leonard was in attendance and snarkily answered some questions about the potential upcoming showdown with Tommy. Hearns would have liked to send Shields packing earlier but then again, the Californian did go the full 10 with Leonard.....

Oh, well; not a great fight but I did marvel at Shields toughness.

 

Shields was quite a character and something of a West Coast attraction. Credible record but no real career-defining wins … but he lost to Leonard, Hearns and Benitez.

I remember him talking about the Hearns fight and him saying he had to hold it in to keep from laughing when Hearns gave him the death staredown.

Randy said something like, “I’m supposed to be scared? What’s he going to do — hit me? He’s going to do that anyway.”

Gutsy guy and ultra durable but had an overzealous father for a manager who just took the best offers (as in for the most money) and did little or nothing to help guide/build his career. Several of his top fights he didn’t have full notice to train or was less than 100%. There’s something wrong with his shoulder in the Hearns fight iirc … not that it would have made a difference.

 

Ah, nothing like a father-manager......

 

When I first heard this fight was being made i thought to myself, 'What a mismatch!" Shields had a fantastic jaw and no punch and when your fighting someone like Hearns, that equals one long beating is about to take place. It was a lot like Mike Quarry after the Foster KO. After that bout Mike's bouts became much more exciting because he no longer fought like a will 'o the wisp, but got down off his toes to engage. Again, like Shields, good jaw but no punch equals a distance fight. And even if Quarry got the decision, he went through 10 rounds of mayhem to get it.

 

I was always intrigued on the story of James Cook when I would read about him in Boxing News. A journeyman fighter who started turning his career around beginning with a stoppage of Errol Christie. The pre-fight commentary on the following fight suggested that it was his move to super-middle was when he started finding success, but I also read he became a bit of a fitness fanatic, which may also be part and parcel with his story. Anyways, here he is defending his Euro title against former conqueror Tarmo Uusivirta.

James Cook v Tarmo Uusivirta (European super-middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Cook
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Uusivirta
Round 4: 10-9 Cook
Round 5: 10-9 Cook
Round 6: 10-9 Cook
Round 7: Uusivirta retires mid-round

Total through 6 completed rounds - 59-56 Cook (scores unknown)

I won't call this a must-see by any means, but I really enjoyed their exchanges. Quite evenly matched and they rocked each other a number of times. The Finn always seemed to catch Cook on the way in, but Cook had a beautiful assortment of punches with the jab, straight right, left hook and that uppercut of his was a beauty. Strangely, midway through the 7th, the Finn just turned away and walked to his corner. Done for the evening. A good Continental matchup. Any of our friends across the pond have any other tidbits on James Cook?

 

Hector Camacho vs Bazooka Limon
Round 1: Camacho 10-9
Round 2: Camacho 10-9
Round 3: Camacho 10-8
Roundc4: Camahho 10-9, 10-8 almost acceptable as well as Limon is rocked at the end of the round and only the ropes hold him up
Round 5: Camacho KO

Wow Camacho is on fire here operating on all cylinders. He's accurate giving Limon all sorts of angles while using lightening fast speed to make Limon look like a pedestrian opponent. If only Hector could of maintained this form longer

 

Horacio Accavallo v Kiyoshi Tanabe (non-title, 5-point must system)

Round 1: 5-4 Tanabe
Round 2: 5-4 Tanabe
Round 3: 5-3 Tanabe (scores a knockdown)
Round 4: 5-3 Tanabe (scores a knockdown)
Round 5: 5-4 Tanabe
Round 6: Tanabe awarded the fight on a TKO

Total through 5 completed rounds - 25-18 Tanabe (actual scores: 25-18, 25-18 and 25-20 all for Tanabe)

Flyweight champ Accavallo started this fight looking like a guy participating in an easy non-title sparring session, but soon learned Kiyoshi Tanabe had other things in mind. In fact it wasn't until the 3rd that it looked like Accavallo was finally starting to get on track, but Tanabe had another gear too and rattled the champ into a sitting position on the ropes, which was quite rightly called a KD. Accavallo took a severe butt in the 4th as well as another knockdown and he was in severe distress by this time with a bad cut. Only now were his cornerman actually coming into the ring between rounds (I thought these were just some lazy bunch before panic struck them. They had been just leaning in making Accavallo stand while they administered to him). Anyways, Accavallo had started boxing nicely out of urgency but Tanabe was not to be denied and was still taking this until another butt in the 6th ended matters. Not sure how they would have handled this today with some of the rules in effect but Tanabe won on a TKO in the 6th. Never understood how he never got a title shot but I see now this was his last fight with a record of 21-0-1 having to retire with a detached retina. Amazing he only had 5 stoppages as he seemed quite the banger and quite the fighter in that flyweight mix of the day. A shame.