the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

    Jun 14, 2022
    I shouldn’t laugh, I know but I guffawed over my breakfast when I read the line…”160-year sentence (without possibility of parole) which was later reduced to a more reasonable 105 years. Haha, it was the “more reasonable” line that got me. I bet Cliff was mighty relieved with that reduction in his sentence :cunaooooo:
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    I guess the utter optimist would say, "Yeah, baby! My lawyer shaved 55 years off of my sentence."
  3. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

    Jun 14, 2022
    Ha ha, true. And an even bigger optimist would say, “Only another 105 years and I’ll be looking for a Tyson rematch!”
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

    Mar 21, 2007
    Lerrone Richards SD12 Carlos Gongora

    I like yellow and black on a fighter, if you're going to wear something weird, something themed, do it as a bee. Richards looks slick. The Brit was not the favoured man here though, it was Gangora, southpaw, out of Boston (originally Ecuador) 20-0, 15 knockouts. Richards clearly has the faster jab and he out-jousts Gongora in the first minute. He shades that first round, does well with his feet to maintain the distance and counters well when Gongora forces the issue. Richards moves well, Gongora's pressure is not elite, Richards tries to out-score his man with the jab, Gongora tries to make the punches count when he closes. Second round is basically even, Richards does well in the third, adds a nice right hand to the body. I have him winning 3/3, two is also reasonable.

    Finally gave Gongora a round in teh fourth I thought he just about outlanded Richards for meaningful punches but being honest, he is still not inspiring and that round was close. Gongora steals the fifth in the final forty seconds, landing three flashing southpaw left hands and suddenly things are close again. A very close sixth puts Richards back in control, but I do get the feeling he is throwing and landing a bit more because Gongora is getting closer to pinning him. It's a tense fight, but not a very good one.

    It gets even tenser as Gongora starts to win the late rounds and is battered about a bit in the ninth - but Richards pulls out the tenth impressively for me, he needed it, took some shots in the ninth, proved his chin, edges the contest 115-113.


    7-5 Richards.
  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Andew Golota v Danell Nicholson

    Round 1: 10-9 Nicholson
    Round 2: 10-9 Golota
    Round 3: 10-9 Golota
    Round 4: 10-9 Golota
    Round 5: 10-9 Nicholson (scored the round Even but Golota had a point deducted for a blatant head butt.)
    Round 6: 10-9 Golota
    Round 7: 10-9 Golota
    Round 8: 10-8 Golota (a bit of a battering)
    Emanuel Steward retires Nicholson between rounds

    Total through 8 completed rounds: 78-73 Golota (actual scores: 77-73, 78-74 and 77-74 all for Golota)

    It was always interesting watching the foul Pole at work and he didn't let me down when he imploded in the 5th with a ridiculously blatant head butt that was not required as he was well ahead. But despite Nicholson's theatrics after the butt, they continued before Nicholson's wheels started coming off in the 8th round before Steward wisely pulled him out. Still and all, a lively heavyweight fight.
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  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Marco Antonio Barrera v Rocky Juarez (jr. lightweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 2: 10-10 Even
    Round 3: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 4: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 5: 10-10 Even
    Round 6: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 7: 10-9 Barrera
    Round 8: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 9: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 10: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 11: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 12: 10-9 Barrera

    Total: 115-115 Draw (actual scores: 115-114 Juarez and scores of 115-113 and 115-114 both for Barrera for a split win)

    Originally this bout was called a draw but adjustments to 2 of the judges cards due to mathematical mistakes had it a split win for Barrera. This bout was damn close and it was a damn good fight. I saw it as the young turk was about to take the title from the veteran until MAB pulled something back from his roots and took the 12th for a draw on my card. Everyone needs to see this fight. They left it all in the ring this night.
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  7. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 5, 2009
    Very good fight, haven't watched it in years. At the time I felt Barrera banked enough rounds early to secure a lead before a Juarez rally. Reminded me a lot of the Hopkins vs Taylor fights in a sense that Taylor like Barrera won more rounds but Hopkins like Juarez won their rounds more emphatically and did more damage

    Juarez had a tough career coming up just short in some big fights. I always felt if he could have continued to campaign at 126 he could have gotten a title but 130 had the stars
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  8. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

    Sep 27, 2022
    Holyfield vs Dokes

    1 - Holyfield 10 Dokes 9

    2- Holyfield 10 Dokes 9

    3- Holyfield 9 Dokes 10

    4- Holyfield 10 Dokes 9

    5- Holyfield 10 Dokes 10

    6- Holyfield 10 Dokes 8

    7- Holyfield 10 Dokes 9

    8- Holyfield 9 Dokes 10

    9- Holyfield 10 Dokes 9

    10 - Holyfield KO

    Holyfield 88 - Dokes 83

    Good heavyweight battle. If Dokes' feet was as fast as his hands he may have done better but was flat footed and puffing even in second round. Holy started the fight with a headbutt, low blow combination. Dokes then went pretty low blow happy for rest of the fight, lot of shots on Holy's hips, maybe trying to slow him down? Dokes had a point taken in round 6 for low blows. Two bouts of punching after the bell. Holyfield always looked like the winner, Dokes couldn't hurt him despite great rallies in rounds 3 and 8. Dokes showed a lot of heart and was fighting back when first tagged in round 10. I suppose you could argue Dokes could have been given an 8 count but pretty sure he wouldn't have survived the round.
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Mar 2, 2006
    Chris John v Rocky Juarez I (featherweight title)

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 John
    Round 3: 10-9 John
    Round 4: 10-9 John
    Round 5: 10-9 John
    Round 6: 10-9 John
    Round 7: 10-9 John
    Round 8: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 9: 10-9 John
    Round 10: 10-9 John
    Round 11: 10-9 Juarez
    Round 12: 10-9 Juarez

    Total: 117-112 John (actual scores: all 3 judges had it 114-114 a Draw. Harold Lederman had it 116-112 for John)

    Chris John reminded me of a featherweight version of Rocky Castellani. And by that I mean, both very strong who threw clubbing punches. Whether it was John purposely keeping that 1-2 foot space between them or Rocky's inability to close that gap, I don't know. Probably both. But that made the difference in the fight because John just hammered Rocky with those clubbing punches throughout with that kind of distance between them. It appeared to be the final urgency late in the fight that had Rocky tearing in the way he did with tremendous success. Those last 2 rounds were tense and exciting. And despite the fact that I knew the results, I was still yelling for Rocky to get in there those last couple of rounds. I can only imagine how I would have been in the arena live.
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  10. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    What always amazes me about this fight is that Dokes gave Evander such a tough fight without taking a round.
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  11. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

    Aug 9, 2021
    Champion John H Stracey vs Challenger Carlos Palomino
    WBC Welterweight Championship - June 22, 1976

    Round 1 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 2 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 3 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 4 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 5 - 10-9 Stracey
    Round 6 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 7 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 8 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 9 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 10 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 11 - 10-9 Palomino
    Round 12 - Palomino wins the title by TKO, Stracey down twice from a brutal body attack. He gets up both times but the fight is stopped shortly after knockdown number two.

    My score through 11 rounds, 109-101 Palomino. Actual scores unknown.

    For a somewhat one-sided affair this was an enjoyable watch.

    Stracey started out boxing with King Carlos but was being slightly outboxed each round. Toward the end of round four and throughout round five Stracey made it a brawl on the inside and had success. I'm not sure if Palomino did something to stop Stracey from getting inside or it the Englishman didn't have the energy to keep it going but round five was the last real brawling we saw.

    Throughout the fight Palomino used great variety to keep Stracey at bay, Uppercuts, straight rights, left hooks to the head and body all produced good results for Carlos.
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  12. Jel

    Jel Obsessive list maker Full Member

    Oct 20, 2017
    Scar, just watched this on your recommendation. Some very close rounds that I felt could have gone either way, particularly in the early going. I thought Barrera did enough to take the decision.

    Marco Antonio Barrera v Rocky Juarez 1
    1. 10-9
    2. 10-9 (close)
    3. 9-10 (close again)
    4. 9-10 (swing round)
    5. 10-9
    6. 10-9
    7. 10-9
    8. 9-10
    9. 10-9
    10. 9-10
    11. 10-9 (very close. Great round)
    12. 9-10
    Barrera 115-113 Juarez
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  13. Vic The Gambler

    Vic The Gambler Active Member Full Member

    Jun 14, 2022
    Stracey was actually my favourite fighter of the early to mid 70s! Even though I was still at the little school I recognised a tough bugger when I saw one and Stracey was as tough as they come.
    Unfortunately he was out of his depth against Palomino in what was… as your scoring and accurate description demonstrates…a one sided beatdown.

    Still…at least John will always have that victory over the legendary Napolese…albeit a faded and finished Jose…on his resumé.
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  14. Blofeld

    Blofeld Active Member Full Member

    Sep 27, 2022
    Yes for sure, I was being generous to Dokes with the rounds I gave him, pretty much an Evander shutout really but a strong showing from Dokes. Shame Mike couldn't show the same skills against Bowe!
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  15. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Apr 9, 2020
    Yeah! Always thought him and Bowe would have been dynamite!
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