the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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  2. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I've got to watch lots of frazier fights now to remember the great man
     
  3. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Watching kind of a Frazier greatest hits right now.

    Have too much actual work to do to keep a scorecard for most of them, but I will post my impressions. I like this thread for that, it gives others reasons to watch fights they may have not seen.
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    Frazier vs Quarry I:

    Round 1- Very even round. Both landing shots of their own. Quarry landed the more telling blows though. He was sharper, accurate, and more active. He may have threw too many punches, to be honest. 10-9 Quarry

    Round 2- Frazier was active to the body, and also landed hard hooks upstairs. Early in the round Quarry had success countering instead of slugging like in the previous round. 10-9 Frazier

    Round 3- Frazier hurts and cuts Quarry with an overhand right. (A rare punch for him) He pressured Quarry to the ropes with jabs and landed bodyshots. Quarry rallies back off the ropes, clinches, and has success with a few flurries. Frazier pushes him back to the ropes, and Quarry tries to counter. They trade power shots to the body and head; Frazier being more dominant, aggressive, and successful. 10-9 Frazier

    Round 4- They trade jabs in the middle of the ring, Quarry hooking off his jab and trying to be more of a counter puncher. Frazier pushes him to the ropes once again and lands power shots to the head. Quarry walks Frazier off the ropes and tries to mount some kind of offense, but Frazier sneaks in inside shots and basically negates Quarry's assault. Frazier dominates the rest of the round with Quarry on the ropes. Quarry's eye is badly swollen while Frazier is almost markless. 10-9 Frazier

    Round 5- Quarry keeping his right low and even though he is on his toes for the beginning of this round, Frazier is easily able to get a lead left hook or jab in. Much of the same of the previous rounds. Quarry trying to counter off the ropes, while Frazier weaves under most of Quarry's shots, lands his own to the body and the head. Quarry rallies with a few right hands late in the round. 10-9 Frazier
    Round 6- Frazier very confident now. Frazier teeing off with left hooks while Quarry is on the ropes, and knocks Quarry's mouth guard out (something I noticed is Frazier's underrated arsenal in this fight. His left hook was very prominent like it always is, but his left jab and right uppercuts are especially effective.) Quarry looks exhausted and beat up, with no legs he can't play the counter puncher like he tried to in previous rounds10-9 Frazier
    Round 7- Frazier throws 6 consecutive left hands, (jabs and hooks), to start out the round. Most of which land. Frazier pins Quarry against the ropes. Quarry lands a few pawing left hooks but is mostly being dominated. 1 punch is landed for Quarry compared to Frazier's 4. Frazier lands punches to Quarry who has no defense for Joe's hooks. Quarry continues to take punishment and gets rocked by a right uppercut at the end of the round. 10-9 Frazier
    The fight is stopped after the doctor examines Quarry's eye. Frazier wins 6-1 on my scorecard. Quarry put up a great fight and effort though
     
  5. tommygun711

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    Joe Frazier vs Bob Foster

    First of all I have to give props to Frazier's variety of punches again. People always act like Frazier just had a left hook and that's it. Frazier's right hand to the body, his jab, and uppercut were all overrated. and sometimes he even sneaked in a right hook or in the quarry fight, an overhand right. Frazier was great at picking off punches too with that cross armed defense.

    No need to score this, Foster tries to keep his distance from Frazier early on and lands a few left jabs but Frazier eventually pins the skinnier Foster in the corner and lands left hooks and a right to the body and probably hurts him. Foster tries to retaliate with a left hook but misses.

    In the second round Frazier cuts the ring off on Foster and nails him with a perfect left hook. Frazier is all over him and goes left hook crazy. Foster is shook and unsteady on his legs. Frazier lands a left to the body and brings another to Foster's head and knocks him out for the count. Foster is badly hurt and stunned on the canvas
     
  6. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Frazier vs Quarry is my pick for the best 2 fight series of any Heavyweights.

    Watched FOTC last night, so impressive.

    Frazier just would not be denied, I was amazed at the quickness at how he closed down Ali, he was just on him, and in seconds, it was amazing. He also hurt Ali so many times throughout the fight, I was really impressed with how Ali took it, but Frazier was just relentless, a man possessed.

    It really got me thinking H2H on one night, Frazier turned in the best performance ever.
     
  7. Flea Man

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    IMO the FOTC is one of the best HW performances captured on film. My favourite fight of the three.
     
  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I'm watching FOTC right now. A great fight. Frazier doesn't get enough props for this
     
  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best, I'd say. Best high level Heavyweight fight, period, alongside Bowe/Holyfield I.
     
  10. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Agree

    Nah, I think he does, but it is an awesome performance.

    I said to my Dad while watching it, imagine fighting Frazier there?

    I mean he was just on Ali from the get go, it was ferocious.

    Agree.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Yeah, this is the right way to put it, and it had everything as well, the contrast of characters, both undefeated, Fraziers ascent in the absence of Ali....everything.

    ****ing great fight boys.
     
  12. Pedderrs

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    Jung Koo Chang vs Jorge Cano

    I decided not to keep score as I thoroughly expected Chang to run away with the fight, but I was wrong. The fight was a relatively close affair with Cano, the tricky southpaw, utilising an effective jab that was troubling Chang on the way in. Chang's successes came as a result of constant pressure. The Korean Hawk seemed to dominate the fight when he was fighting in spots - darting in and out - as opposed to rushing his opponent, but he failed to sustain this and lost rounds as a result.

    Cano impressed me with his jab and accuracy. Apparently his shock result over German Torres earned him a shot at Chang and this performance certainly proved that was no fluke. Cano could fight and proved himself to be a worthy challenger to Chang's title. On the flipside, Chang showed exactly why he was such an outstanding champion. He gutted out a victory despite not being on top form.

    A good, competitive fight.
     
  13. anut

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    scored lewis vs mercer .........96 to 94 for lewis
    and holmes/norton 144 to 142 for holmes
     
  14. HawkFan16

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    Scored DLH-Mosley II. How the judges gave that one to Mosley is beyond me. 8-4 Oscar. And it wasn't even a difficult fight to score either.

    Round 1: 10-9 DLH. Mosley can't get inside on Oscar and eats the jab and right hand consistently.

    Round 2: 10-9 DLH. More of the same.

    Round 3: 10-9 DLH. The headbutt doesn't seem to faze him and he keeps on boxing. Mosley is puzzled.

    Round 4: 10-9 DLH. Oscar continues to outbox Mosley, who looks really flat in general.

    Round 5: 10-9 DLH. Mosley only seems able to score with weak arm punches in the clinches.

    Round 6: 10-9 DLH. DLH continues to circle and pepper Mosley with the jab.

    Round 7: 10-9 DLH. By this point, it's clear Mosley doesn't have a clue on how to handle a big guy with a good jab.

    Round 8: 10-9 Mosley. Luckily for Mosley, DLH gets tired. Mosley catches up to him and is finally able to land some decent punches. He does more than DLH in a round for the first time in the fight.

    Round 9: 10-9 Mosley. DLH is still connecting cleanly and blocking most of Mosley's shots, the only problem is Mosley is more active and doing more. Mosley again gets some decent connects in the round.

    Round 10: 10-9 Mosley. DLH looks to have slowed down, and again takes much of the round off, fighting in short spurts where he still lands effectively. However, Mosley is a lot more active (even if he's not particularly effective.)

    Round 11: 10-9 DLH. DLH throws more in this round, and connects solidly with some power punches upstairs. He generally connects with more force and accuracy than Mosley, even though Mosley remains aggressive.

    Round 12: 10-9 Mosley. DLH is more active than in rounds 8-10, but not nearly as much as he was in round 11. The result is Mosley outworks him again, even if most of his punches get picked off.

    116-112 DLH.
     
  15. HawkFan16

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    DLH-Trinidad

    Round 1: 10-9 DLH. Tentative round by both guys. DLH blocks most of Trinidad's punches with his gloves. Neither guy lands much, but DLH lands with a little more authority.

    Round 2: 10-9 DLH. Oscar gets the jab working effectively, and lands a couple of solid right hands as well. Trinidad reduced to following DLH around and trying to get off with something big, which doesn't happen.

    Round 3: 10-9 DLH. Oscar circles Trinidad and easily keeps the jab in his face, preventing Tito from getting close. Trinidad lands one decent left hook, but that's not enough to make up for all the jabs and a couple of strong Oscar combinations later in the round.

    Round 4: 10-9 Trinidad. Oscar continues to score effectively with the jab, but does not get through with many power connects this round. Meanwhile, Trinidad is more effective than in the first 3 rounds, and more active too, landing with a few power punches. Close round, but Tito did a bit more.

    Round 5: 10-9 DLH. Trinidad goes back to a lower output/following DLH around, whilst DLH continues to nail him with the jab throughout the round. Neither man lands much in power connects until the last minute of the round, though, when DLH connects with a couple of solid right hands and a good flurry of power shots near the end of the round.

    Round 6: 10-9 DLH. DLH again outworks Trinidad and cleanly hits him with jabs and right hands. Trinidad fails to land much of any significance.

    Round 7: 10-9 DLH. DLH again puzzles Trinidad by moving and jabbing. Trinidad nowhere close to being active enough to seriously pressure DLH. In the last minute, DLH gets a couple of right hands through, and then lands another clean flurry in the last 20 seconds of the round, which is the best work of either guy in the round.

    Round 8: 10-9 DLH. DLH very dominant in this round, landing multiple combinations and right hands throughout. Trinidad throws a punch after the bell in frustration for the second round in a row.

    Round 9: 10-9 DLH. Trinidad is more aggressive, and lands a few more punches than usual, but that is not enough to take the round against DLH's greater body of work. Oscar landed several solid combinations and right hands along with his usual jab.

    Round 10: 10-9 DLH. First signs of DLH's activity dropping. Trinidad getting anxious chasing DLH, winging a couple of wild shots that miss. DLH no longer sticking the jab consistently- instead, he confines his activity to a an early flurry to the body that lands effectively, and then a few more to the head later on. Close, but DLH edged it.

    Round 11: 10-9 Trinidad. He continues to try and stalk DLH, clearly thinking he needs a KO to win, but he does not throw a lot of punches, or really sit down on his punches either. DLH by now is very inactive and not throwing much, with the exception of a few jabs throughout the round and one solid left hook near the end. Trinidad is far more active though and lands more, so he gets the round.

    Round 12: 10-9 Trinidad. DLH backpedals much of the round, and Trinidad makes most of the effort to press the action. The fact Trinidad is unable to catch up or really connect on anything that can truly hurt a fatigued DLH demonstrates in essence how much trouble Trinidad had with mobile boxer types.

    117-111 DLH. You can make an argument for Trinidad having an even round in the first, or for him winning 9 or 10. At worst, you can make a 6-5-1 DLH scorecard, and that's being as nice to Trinidad as possible. Simply put, DLH exposed Trinidad. When his opponent didn't stand still or let him get in his range, Trinidad can't get off with anything hurtful, and if he can't do that, his modest workrate is not going to be enough to make up for that. DLH was robbed here.