the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pryor arguello as amazing

    I was thinking em mab 3 is way better as a ppv main event than almost all ppv main events 20 years since
     
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  2. salsanchezfan

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    Michael Dokes W10 "Tex" Randall Cobb (1)

    This was kind of fun. I don't normally enjoy heavyweight fights compared to the better weight divisions, but this wasn't bad. It showcased both as they were young up-and-comers in 1981. Always a pleasure to see Keith Jackson reporting for ABC TV as well. The tenor to his voice as an announcer has a certain forward-moving tension to it that I've always liked. {"And he's just.........a soph-o-more"). That kind of thing.

    Anyway..........

    This fight showcased both the talents and limitations of the young Dokes, who was then ranked #3 by the WBC, and........well.......the limitations of the #9 ranked Cobb. Dokes indeed has very fast hands here, among the fastest I've seen at heavy. And he's got spirit, I'll give him that. Just not much else. He backs up in a straight line, allowing the deceptively long arms of Cobb to reach him with those painfully slow, ponderous jabs and occasional rights more often than they should have. His legs, so highly touted by Jackson in the intro to the fight, were almost as non-existent as they were later in his career when it was said his legs had gone.

    He comes out popping the jab and flurries, always following up with that fast hook of his, and takes the first few rounds without much trouble. Cobb is game, and lumbers forward behind that long jab. He wants to be inside to rough up Dokes and tire him but does surprisingly little in the trenches when he gets him there. Cobb does decidedly better when on the outside, spearing those occasional jabs and long rights. He's tall and rangy, this Cobb, and perhaps that's why he's not better on the inside than he is. He's not a stereotypical brawler that way, which is interesting.

    Cobb then begins to build a head of steam as Dokes winds down a bit in the second half. I give him the seventh and eighth, and call the ninth even. Dokes is tiring from being chased around and constantly having the big Texan in front of him. He flurries enough in the tenth to take that stanza, and I have the score a bit more tilted to Dokes than the official cards, who had it 96-94, 95-95 (?), and 97-94.

    1. Dokes
    2. Dokes
    3. Dokes
    4. Dokes
    5. Dokes
    6. Dokes (close, though)
    7. Cobb
    8. Cobb
    9. Even
    10. Dokes

    98-93, Dokes.
     
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Checked out a couple of Pedro Decima fights today. Always remembered him as an exciting fighter and needed to see a good one.

    Jesse Benavides v Pedro Decima

    Round 1: 10-8 Decima * (more on this later)
    Round 2: 10-9 Decima
    Round 3: Decima drops Benavides twice and the bout is rightly stopped

    Total through 2 completed rounds: 20-17 Decima (scores unknown)

    *About that first round. This was another one of Carlos Padilla's screwups, calling an obvious knockdown a slip. I mean, when it landed it landed with a splat. How could he have misread it? Although he screwed up I was ready to call the round a 10-9 for Decima because of the official call, but right at the end he nails Benavides again with a right hand and buckles his knees. That was it for me regardless of official calls, it was a 10-8 for me the way Decima manhandled Jesse. Jesse just couldn't get away from Decima who was like a grinder in there. I don't believe Jesse ever recovered from that 'unofficial' knockdown in the first and was done in the 3rd.

    Paul Banke v Pedro Decima (super bantamweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Decima
    Round 2: 10-9 Decima
    Round 3: 10-9 Decima
    Round 4: Decima drops Banke 3 times before the fight is called

    Total through 3 completed rounds: 30-27 Decima (very straight forward as all officials scored it the same at 30-27)

    Whatever it was, Banke just could not form any kind of attack here as again, Decima was a grinder. The heart, the fire, the comeback just oozed out of Paul as Decima whittled away at him and finished matters in the 4th, taking the title in the process.
     
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  4. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pedro Decima v Kiyoshi Hatanaka (super bantamweight title)

    Round 1: 10-8 Decima (scores a knockdown)
    Round 2: 10-9 Decima
    Round 3: 10-9 Decima
    Round 4: 10-5 Hatanaka (scores 4 knockdowns)
    Round 5: 10-9 Decima
    Round 6: 10-9 Decima
    Round 7: 10-8 Hatanaka (scores a knockdown)
    Round 8: Hatanaka drops Decima and the ref calls it off

    Total through 7 completed rounds: 64-63 Hatanaka (actual scores: 65-63 and 65-64 both for Hatanaka and a 65-64 for Decima)

    Man, you guys aren't reading things wrong here. Lots of drama in this fight. Funny thing, the ref allowed a lot of latitude to Decima in that 4th round. But in the 8th, with Decima winning most of the round and having Hatanaka badly cut over the left eye, Decima goes down again and the ref calls it off. Perhaps he saw something in Decima's eyes that said, 'I'm done'. I don't know, but Decima's sharp-punching kept him in this fight after the disastrous 4th and I would recommend this as a very fun fight.
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    Nothing much to score here so no full report — just a fun few minutes for me tonight.

    Big George weighs 263 to Adilson Rodrigues’ 219. Adilson boxes well in the first round and takes it with some good body work, but in the second George gets serious with a couple of thumping body shots that probably would have broken open a beer keg.

    To end it at 2:39 of the second, George lands a couple jabs, just misses (grass) with a right and then cranks a follow-up left hook and it’s nighty-night Rodrigues.

    Good lord could this man punch.

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  6. Showstopper97

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    Alvarez - 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,
    Golovkin - 1,9,10,11,12
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    - Canelo gets a cut on his right eye from an accidental headbutt at the end of the 10th round.
    - Canelo is declared the winner via MD
    - I scored the fight 7-5 for Canelo.

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    A fairly pedestrian bout with flashes of action. It that lacked the intensity their two previous fights had. This was the third & final fight (trilogy) between these two elite fighters. After a cautious first round that I felt GGG edged with his jab, Canelo started to turn up the volume with his pressure. He landed body shots & surprise power shots that stunned GGG and backed him up repeatedly.

    For many more rounds following, the fight followed this same pattern. GGG looked like he was sleep walking in this fight & appeared to be a sitting duck. However, he managed to turn things around in the 8th. With 30 secs left in the 8th round, after losing most of the round, GGG sprang to life and put together some crisp punches. He landed his signature downward hook high on the head, followed by a left-right combination that stunned & slightly pushed Canelo back. GGG was back in the fight.

    For the remaining rounds up until the finish, I gave all the rounds to GGG. However, when the scorecards were read out, Canelo was declared the winner. All three judges gave the fight to Canelo. GGG fought valiantly in the 2nd half of the bout and could have won the fight had he started his attack earlier & not given up so many of the earlier rounds.
     
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  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rudy Zavala v Pedro Decima

    Round 1: 10-9 Decima
    Round 2: 10-8 Zavala (scores a knockdown)
    Round 3: 10-8 Zavala (scores a knockdown)
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Decima
    Round 6: Zavala drops and stops Decima on a cut

    Total through 5 completed rounds: 48-46 Zavala (scores not known)

    This completes my Pedro Decima fixation. This was a good fight with good, clean combinations thrown on both sides. I recall seeing this on the undercard while waiting for the Holmes v Holyfield fight back in the day. Decima picked up a bad cut from a clash of heads in the 5th and it went downhill for him after that. Decima was a sharp hitter, but maybe not the stoutest of chins.
     
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  8. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I havent seen a fight in a while..
     
  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jorge Lujan v Shuichi Isogami (bantamweight title)

    Saw this fight out there and wanted to check it out. I recall seeing the result back when this happened and really didn't read anything on it so alighted on it today. No use running a card here. I had the first round even and the rest to Lujan for an 80-73 card through 8 completed rounds (actual scores: 80-72, 80-75 and 80-77 all for Lujan) before the ref mercifully stopped the fight with Lujan pounding Isogami from pillar to post with both eyes severely damaged. Amazingly, the Japanese crowd started to bombard Lujan with debris and he had to run from the ring. Not sure if they thought his post-fight celebration was over the top or if he was having words with some of the crowd that ignited.

    Regarding the fight, Isogami put up a brave assault although he was at an height and reach disadvantage. It soon became apparent that his only method of attack lay in bull rushes and haymakers, which he did occasionally catch Lujan with. However, Lujan's main attributes being a counter-puncher with a great jaw spelled doom early on for the game Japanese, who, BTW, did not deserve a title shot. I figured he was an OPBF champ or something to that effect that the WBA love, but he wasn't even the Japanese champ at this time. Anyways, about the 3rd round Lujan started catching Isogami on the way in and began finding a home for that sharp right hand. By the 7th he was in complete control and it was a matter of time with Isogami's eyes marking up. He was a mess by the 9th and the ref, quite rightly, stopped the bout.
     
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  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well you should address that forthwith!
     
  11. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    LOL right now Im watching a live show from Argentina.

    Diego Chaves' nephew won by knockout in the second. He is 16-0 with 14 kos
     
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  12. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Daniel Zaragoza v Freddie Jackson (vacant bantamweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Jackson
    Round 2: 10-9 Jackson
    Round 3: 10-9 Zaragoza
    Round 4: 10-10 Even
    Round 5: 10-9 Jackson
    Round 6: 10-9 Zaragoza
    Round 7: Zaragoza wins on a DQ

    Total through 6 completed rounds: 58-57 Jackson (actual scores: 58-57 Jackson and a 58-57, 59-57 both for Zaragoza with DZ leading)

    I remember this fight when it took place but couldn't for the life of me remember how the DQ took place. It was somewhat peripheral in my head because it was for a vacant title that Albert Davila had to relinquish due to injuring his back. Anyways, the film quality wasn't the best and it was in Spanish but it didn't interfere with me finding interest in the fight. Jackson started well but seemed to have a penchant for holding and hitting. Still, he did well here but appeared to me to have punched himself out with Zaragoza really coming on. I would have liked to have seen it to it's end but Jackson was DQ'd for one of the most DELIBERATE headbutts I've ever seen, which cut Zaragoza high on his forehead. Suddenly the doctor comes in and it is deemed DZ can't continue. It's a bit strange because I've seen far worse cuts in that area - Tim Tszyu's cut last night for instance against Fundora - and it immediately went to a DQ rather than say, a point deduction and a round or so to assess and address the forehead cut. But it is what it is before I go off on the WBC and conspiracy theories. On another note, Jackson had a troubled career. I noticed a DQ loss to Harold Petty for low blows, a NC against Hurley Snead for a positive drug test, a tech draw with Frankie Duarte for another head-butt (it states: unintentional). It may be nothing, but when one starts connecting the dots, he may have had an issue of keeping it together.
     
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  13. Saintpat

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    Always liked Lujan and wish I saw more of him. He seemed to have really good timing on everything from my memory. Kind of a hard-nosed stylist.
     
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  14. scartissue

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    Myung Woo Yuh v Benedicto Murillo (lt. flyweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Murillo
    Round 2: 10-9 Yuh (I noted on my sheet after this round, 'WOW!")
    Round 3: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 4: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 5: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 6: 10-10 Even
    Round 7: 10-9 Murillo
    Round 8: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 9: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 10: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 11: 10-9 Murillo
    Round 12: 10-9 Murillo
    Round 13: 10-9 Yuh
    Round 14 10-9 Yuh
    Round 15: Yuh stops Murillo

    Total through 14 completed rounds: 136-131 Yuh (actual scores: 136-131, 136-130 and 137-130 all for Yuh)

    Every so often we'll come across a fight that blew us away only to find no history on it within the confines of our scorecard thread. And it happened to me today. Yuh was dogged tough but Murillo's hard body punches and sharp shots to the head made this a joy to watch. Murillo's faults lie in the fact that he always seemed to have his head and chin in the air, awaiting a counter. The fight slowed a bit over the last third, but Yuh made up for it with an unbelievable finish to a damn good fight. Definitely recommend this one. Fought over the real world championship limit of 15 rounds
     
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  15. scartissue

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    Victor Galindez v Richie Kates I (light heavyweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Kates
    Round 2: 10-9 Kates
    Round 3: 10-9 Kates
    Round 4: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 5: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 6: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 7: 10-8 Galindez (scores a knockdown)
    Round 8: 10-9 Kates
    Round 9: 10-8 Galindez (battering)
    Round 10: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 11: 10-9 Galindez
    Round 12: 10-9 Kates
    Round 13: 10-10 Even
    Round 14: 10-9 Kates
    Round 15: Galindez scores a KO

    Total through 14 completed rounds: 134-131 Galindez (actual scores: 101-90, 100-89 and 100-88 all for Galindez, but I have no idea how the South African scoring system works, so I used the 10 point must.)

    Being such a big Galindez fan, it's amazing it took this long for me to check this out. But it was well worth it. The Kates jab was so sharp and pinpoint and he was such a big man that I'm surprised he didn't exercise a bit more push on Galindez, just to let him know that he's here too. Galindez, of course, exhibited a superhuman heart in fighting back after that 3rd round cut. The final round KO was something to behold. I, of course, cannot read the official scores, but they were clearly wide for Galindez from the 3 South African officials. Let me just say there was nothing wide about this contest. This was evenly matched from the outset and right down to the wire.
     
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