the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When PPV's were worth the money.
     
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    Joel Casamayor v Robert Garcia (jr. lightweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 JC
    Round 2: 10-9 JC
    Round 3: 10-9 Garcia
    Round 4: 10-9 Garcia
    Round 5: 10-9 Garcia
    Round 6: 9-9 Even (Casamayor's round but deducted 1 point for - I'll call it - roughhousing)
    Round 7: 10-9 Garcia
    Round 8: 10-9 Garcia
    Round 9: Casamayor drops Garcia twice and the ref stops the fight

    Total through 8 completed rounds: 77-74 Garcia (actual scores: 77-74 and 76-74 both for Garcia and a 76-76 Even with Garcia ahead on points at the time of the stoppage)

    A decent fight with brisk exchanges that was fought tactically throughout. Regarding the 6th round, it was probably Casamayor's best round before the 9th and the version I watched had two British announcers that were calling for a 2 point round for Casamayor (until the point deduction). I was on the fence on that one being a somewhat conservative scorer. Although I have given 2 point rounds for a battering without a knockdown, I just didn't feel Casamayor earned a 2 pointer for that one. Thus, I had the round even. But again, decent fight.
     
  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @cleming and @Fireman Fred , you guys recently recommended Ben Tackie v Edwin Santana and Tackie against Teddy Reid respectively. However, I can't find them out there. Can you guys provide a link? I'm in the mood for a good fight and thought these would do the job.
     
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  4. Fireman Fred

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    Had a look on the Internet and no luck either. I had the fight on Vhs, don´t think I got it converted but I´ll look at my dvd collection to see if I´ve got it. If I do I´ll message you. Youtube is great to see many fights at a moments notice but unfortunately there are some little gems that don´t get uploaded.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Send me your Danny Lopez-Sean O’Grady and Ray Leonard-Randy Shields full fights and I’ll zip you my Harry Greb collection while you’re at it.
     
  6. George Crowcroft

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    If you're still in the mood for a good fight, could I interest you in:
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    It's easily one of the best British Domestic fights I've ever seen, and it draws serious comparisons to Castillo vs Corrales. If it's not working in your country, you might have to use a VPN.
     
  7. scartissue

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    Going on my list, George. Already working on a few. Likely over the weekend. Thanks, man.
     
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  8. Saintpat

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    Haha, I’m not familiar with either guy but I correctly guessed it was a light heavyweight scrap based on our @George Crowcroft posting it.
     
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    Archie Moore (c) vs. Carl “Bobo” Olson, scheduled for 15 rounds for the world light heavyweight championship on June 22, 1955, at the Polo Grounds in NYC.

    Archie, 38, has spent the last year campaigning at heavyweight in search of a bout with Rocky Marciano (which will come next) but makes 175 to defense here. His purse is a reported $90K, presumably including a percentage of the gate from the crowd of 27K-plus on hand to see this bout. The 13-to-5 favorite is 148-19-8.

    Bobo, 26, is reigning middleweight champ. He comes in comfortably at 170 1/4 with a record of 69-6. Lest anyone think Olson didn’t have the pop to mix with light heavyweights, he dropped Joey Maxim twice in winning easily over 10 rounds in his previous bout to solidify his shot at Archie.

    Unfortunately the video is pretty dark. You can tell what’s going on, but it’s not easy to discern just how impactful some punches are and how cleanly they land. But I’d never seen it so when I spotted that it’s out there, I couldn’t resist.

    1 — Moore 10-9: Bobo comes out the more frisky of the two, landing a few clean right hands early while Archie mostly robes and seems to be gauging the distance and sizing up Olson. In the last minute, Archie roughs him up pretty good with a series of chopping punches at closer range. When they’re close, Bobo can’t do anything with Archie and seems out of his depth.

    2 — Moore 10-9: Archie controls most of the action with his left jab, which he’s measured and uses frequently. He works the full three minutes, while Olson has occasional success with single shots. Once again, Moore turns up the heat in the last minute and asserts himself to take the round.

    3 — Archie sees in complete control here and it’s becoming apparent that Olson simply isn’t going to be able to keep Archie off him or do anything. Moore pretty much walks in behind that cross-arm defense and does what he pleases. He stuns Bob with a big right hand and follows with two left hooks to put Carl down and out for the full 10-count at 1:19.

    A better version of this film might be more telling, but Archie is always worth a watch in my estimation. Olson was a world champ — at a lighter weight, but he had shown he was good enough vs. Maxim to hang at 175 — and Moore handled him without much breaking a sweat.

    EDIT: Shout out to @George Crowcroft — not trying to tread on your light heavyweight mastery but I love me some Archie Moore.

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  10. scartissue

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    Nino Benvenuti v Carlos Monzon I (middleweight title)

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 3: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 4: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 5: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 6: 10-10 Even
    Round 7: 10-9 Monzon (pretty close to a 10-8)
    Round 8: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 9: 10-10 Even
    Round 10: 10-9 Benvenuti
    Round 11: 10-9 Monzon
    Round 12: Monzon KOs Benvenuti

    Total through 11 completed rounds: 109-103 for Monzon (actual scores not known and the scoring might have actually been a 5-point must, not sure)

    I was wondering while watching this fight exactly when Nino and his corner realized signing this unknown from Argentina was a bad mistake. Nino fought his usual hopping around and clinching style, but Monzon came prepared for those clinches. Nino always seemed to clinch and wait for the ref to separate in all his fights. But Monzon was having none of it. He used that free hand to the max and I really believe that was Nino's downfall because Nino would turn away from the incoming shot and took many on the back of the head. He looked concussed before taking that last hellacious right hand from Monzon and those rabbit punches - I believe - had a lot to do with it. But hey, it was Nino turning into them. He could look at the referee all he wanted to but all that ref did was warn both fighters for various infractions of low blows, clinching, elbows, etc. and never took a point. A powerful ending and I believe with 1 round to Nino and 3 Even, that I was very generous to Nino, because Monzon looked like a monster in there.