the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seems pretty nosy to be paying that much attention to what people eat.

    It’ snout polite to judge.
     
  2. SixesAndSevens

    SixesAndSevens Gator Wrestler Extraordinaire Full Member

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    That snot it. I simply am informing the public about the upsides of eating boogers, and the downsides of having friends.
     
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  3. AntonioMartin1

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    This is one of those ko,s that when you think "top 50 kos of all time" you think Tyson-Berbick, Patterson-Johannson 2, Robinson-Fullmer 2, Ham,ed-Alicea, Leonard-Hearns 1, Leonard-Green, Hearns-Shuler, Gomez-Kobayashi, Marciano-Walcott I, Sanchez-Gomez, Hagler-Hearns, Hearns-Duran, Barkley-Hearns 1, Chavez-Taylor 1, ...."
     
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    That right hand after the fact just looks so cool. It needs to be included in more KO compilations.
     
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  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Carlos Ortiz v Johnny Busso I (NY rounds scoring)

    Round 1: Busso
    Round 2: Busso
    Round 3: Even
    Round 4: Ortiz
    Round 5: Ortiz
    Round 6: Ortiz
    Round 7: Busso
    Round 8: Busso
    Round 9: Ortiz
    Round 10: Even

    Total: 4-4-2 Draw (actual scores: 6-4 Ortiz and 2 scores of 5-4-1 for Busso for a split win)

    Oh, man, what a good fight! An old ethnic neighborhood rivalry between the Italian Johnny Busso and the Puerto Rican Carlos Ortiz and they put on quite a show. I had never seen Busso before and although he was not a puncher, he would utilize his reach and score jarring shots on Ortiz from the outside. On the other hand, Ortiz was doing a lot of good inside work on that body of Busso's that was sure to be hurting the next morning. I think it was a good draw, and clearly by the scorecards rendered, one can see it was a close fight. Highly recommend this fight to you guys. A good, clear film as well.
     
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  6. Saintpat

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    How Iran withstood those body shots was inhuman.
     
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    I had it 114-113 Toney....

    117-110 and 118-110 was a travesty.
     
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    Real good fight!
     
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    One of 1985s many wars.

    Years later in the rematch, Randall won handidly.

    Sometimes I think Randall belongs in the IBHOF too.

    At least, he had IBHOF talent.
     
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  10. salsanchezfan

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    Rosario was actually in a number of excellent fights; both Ramirez bouts were terrific, Howard Davis too, as well as this one. Superb action and skill in all of them.
     
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    Johnny Saxton v Carmen Basilio II (welterweight title - NY rounds scoring)

    Round 1: Even
    Round 2: Basilio
    Round 3: Basilio
    Round 4: Basilio
    Round 5: Basilio
    Round 6: Basilio
    Round 7: Basilio
    Round 8: Basilio
    Round 9: Basilio stops Saxton

    Total through 8 completed rounds: 7-0-1 Basilio (actual scores: 7-1 by all three judges for Basilio)

    Decent enough quality of film to this fight and an excellent contest of infighting through the first 5 rounds before Saxton reverted to his boxing, but by then, it was too late, having incurred a fair amount of damage. Why he resorted to infighting in the first place with a meat-grinder is beyond me. Maybe a lot like Sugar Ray Leonard years later when he felt the need to go inside with Roberto Duran in their first fight. Maybe it was to prove something. But Basilio's steady wallops to the body took its toll, IMO, not to mention the badly sliced lip of Saxton, was taking the wind out of the champ's sails. Not that Saxton was bad at infighting. In fact, I loved his sweeping left hook. But again, when you have a 7" reach on a meat-grinder, you take advantage of those physical attributes. Still in all, a really good fight and when Carmen got the taste of blood, he was not going to be denied.
     
  12. AntonioMartin1

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    Also the Camacho fight was a classic!
     
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    Ali back from the Frazier loss.
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    @AntonioMartin1 as a Puerto Rican, given the rivalry between Puerto Rico and Mexico in boxing, who are your favorite Mexican fighters?

    (If you’re still doing Wikipedia pages, that rivalry in the ring would be a great one but I realize that would entail a ton of research and time/effort. But rest assured, I’d read it.)
     
  15. AntonioMartin1

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    Hi!
    Well, I have Julio Cesar Chavez as number 4 all time in my list..he is in my "Mount Rushmore" of Boxing, So they are Julio Cesar Chavez sr and Salvador Sanchez.

    I never got affected so much by the rivalry because of a few factors: when Sanchez-Gomez took place i was only nine. I saw boxers as people not as nationalities. My aunt and cousins had traveled to Mexico and I really wanted to go. Two of my favorite shows, El Chavo del Ocho and El Chapulin Colorado mere Mexican shows, we used to get Galavision in Puerto Rico from where i saw fights from Arena Coliseo on Saturday nights and many movies..my grandpa and I loved El Chapulin and El Chavo del Ocho plus Cantinflas, Caplina and La India Maria....of course we rooted for the Puerto Rican boxer more but if we lost, we lost, who cared? And then, of course, Salvador Sanchez died. The day before I turned ten. People in Puerto Rico generally felt sad about it. There was even a tribute documentary on Puerto Rican TV five days after the fact. They showed interviews and then they re-transmitted his fight with Azumah Nelson, which, BTW, we had seen live and free of charge on Puerto Rican TV a month before.

    Then there was Menudo visiting Mexico every three weeks when they were on tour and Mexican soap operas shown all the time on Puerto Rican TV , plus actors, actresses and singers visiting us all the time. Many Mexican entertainers moved to Puerto Rico and vice versa., I met two or three on the street and said hi!

    Me and my friends formed a band because, hey, like every other self respecting teenager in Latin America, we wanted to be as successful as Menudo...only two other boy bands and one boy-girl one even got close to that level of fame, and those were the other Puerto Rican boys, Los Chicos de Puerto Rico, Venezuelan boys Los Chamos and Mexican boy-girl combo Timbiriche. But, like everyone else, guess which markets we had dreams of conquering? Along with Venezuela, Argentina, Panama, Spain,Colombia and Brasil, if you guessed Mexico and Puerto Rico, you were right!!

    When my family moved to Arizona, i knew Mexicans live here. i knew I was going to be friends with many Mexicans...i met so many Mexicans in my late teens that i started feeling a bit like them, I loved their culture and identified a bit as an "esa"....I even got engaged once to a Mexican American woman. (two lesbian esas's go figure lol!) I got immersed in all of it, I knew about la calaca, Frida Kahlo, Cesar Chavez....

    I got caught up in the hype surrounding Maromero Paez, Chavez and in the show business world, Gloria "La Loca" Trevi...i even used to claim to friends I was Trevi's long lost sister lol

    To be honest, had i moved to Panama or to the Dominican Republic, it would have been the same because my slogan has always been "Puerto Rican first, Latina second" so I can easily identify with any Latin culture and in fact, at Wikipedia, I am involved in every Latin country's project and even organized 4 of them myself.

    I did write an article about the Mexico-Puerto Rico boxing rivalry some 20 years ago with a huge list of major fights but it as scaled down massively and I not planning to make the list again lmao..

    (wait, I see the list is back up!)

    Here is the actual version of the article:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico–Puerto_Rico_boxing_rivalry

    There is so much to write about at Wikipedia, specially boxing, i dont think Ill ever "retire" lol

    Thanks!
    'Antonia"
    (Jeanette on the Internet)

    PS I finally traveled to Mexico for one day in 2001.....wonderful place, lovely people and a wonderful day I will never forget. But due to cartel activity I dont recommend it that much anymore.
     
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