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Fighting Harada W15 Bernardo Carballo

Haven't done one of these in a while. For whatever reason, I'd never seen this, no idea why. Here we go......

First, I like Caraballo. Excellent jab when he chose to use it, slicing left hook (which was actually unnecessarily wide, I thought), tough, clearly in excellent shape; not much to dislike. Unfortunately for him, he was in there with a perpetual motion machine that is very good at nullifying the skills of others, and he just couldn't keep Harada off him.

A note about my scoring.......I decided to score Round One 10-9 in favor of Harada, instead of the perhaps more conventional 10-8, as Harada DID knock Caraballo down. It was just that Caraballo had such a good round up till then, even badly wobbling the champ with a whistling left hook and was very much in command until that right hand over the top put him on the seat of his pants. No flash knockdown, either, Caraballo was taken out of the fight for another full round before he regained his sense of initiative in the third. He dominated the round in a big way until that one punch, however, and I can't in good conscience award an extra point for that one shot, nearly the only useful thing Harada landed the whole round.

Also, I think the referee took a point from Caraballo either for holding or butting in Round Eleven. Not entirely sure, but I treated it as a deduction, so that explains the 10-8 for Harada at that point.

Overall, not a great fight, but Harada is always good to see. He understood that Caraballo did all his best work at long range, so insisted on leaping in with lead right and trying to take it inside, where Caraballo, while landing good shots of his own, was at a distinct disadvantage.

The 14th and 15th rounds were scrappy and it was difficult to say who was doing more good work; both were tired, their technique gone a little south by then. Little to choose between them in those stanzas, so I scored both even.

Harada simply imposed his inside fight in a way the challenger couldn't deal with. The Colombian also had no answer for Harada's lead right; for such a solid, skilled pro, he was very easy to hit with that punch. He never found an antidote.

1. Harada 10-9
2. Harada 10-9 (Caraballo still affected by the late KD in the first)
3. Caraballo (there ya go, kid)
4. Harada
5. Harada
6. Harada
7. Harada
8. Caraballo
9. Caraballo
10. Caraballo (challenger building up some confidence and steam now)
11. Harada (10-8, probable point deduction)
12. Even
13. Harada
14. Even
15. Even

146-141 Harada. A good historical document if not a truly great fight.

 

Sal, you and I saw it as a good close fight with a lot of similarities, even down to that conundrum in the 1st round. Here is what I wrote:

Fighting Harada v Bernardo Caraballo (bantamweight title) (Japan's 5 point must)

Round 1: 5-4 Harada (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: 5-5 Even
Round 3: 5-4 Caraballo
Round 4: 5-4 Caraballo
Round 5: 5-4 Harada
Round 6: 5-5 Even
Round 7: 5-4 Harada
Round 8: 5-4 Caraballo
Round 9: 5-4 Caraballo
Round 10: 5-4 Harada
Round 11: 5-3 Harada (Caraballo loses a point for excessive holding)
Round 12: 5-4 Caraballo
Round 13: 5-4 Harada
Round 14: 5-4 Harada
Round 15: 5-4 Harada

Total: 70-66 Harada (actual scores: 72-66, 72-68 and 71-68 all for Harada)

Good tactical fight until the late rounds, which became a bit of a clinchfest. I felt Caraballo just did not throw enough punches when he had things going his way. The first round is the only one where I really have to explain. Harada scored a knockdown late in the round, which may have some scoring it as a 2 point round for Harada. However, I felt that was arguably the best round of Caraballo (even though he lost it) after having stunned Harada about three times during the round. I just could not give Harada a 2-pointer for the knockdown alone. I gave him the round, but just.

 

I meant to write "Aha! Another for the "not every knockdown means a 10-8 round" club!

 

Mostly they should — knocking the other fella down is better than nicking him by a few solid jabs — but it definitely isn’t and shouldn’t be a rule.

 

Yeah,some rounds can be a draw until oke guy fell off.

 

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A good knockout!

I had it 19-19 before the sudden finish.

 

That was a good little scrap. I would have liked to have seen more of Feeney there. Nice, tight defense, good jab and didn't mind a bit of infighting where he showed a sweet uppercut.

 

The only time he was seen on these shores was with Ray Mancini. but he went the distance!!! Against a very hard puncher!

 

You may be thinking of George Feeney, the lightweight. Not sure if they're related.

 

Evander Holyfield v Michael Moorer I (heavyweight title)

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-8 Holyfield (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Moorer
Round 4: 10-9 Moorer
Round 5: 10-9 Moorer
Round 6: 10-9 Moorer
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Moorer
Round 9: 10-9 Holyfield
Round 10: 10-9 Moorer
Round 11: 10-9 Moorer
Round 12: 10-9 Moorer

Total: 117-112 Moorer (actual scores: 116-112 and 115-114 both for Moorer along with a 114-114 Even for a majority decision for Moorer)

I always wanted to have another look at this fight but to tell the truth, if I looked at it again, I would probably have a slightly different score. Many rounds so close but I think the announcing team were so enamored by Holyfield they were really leaning towards him everytime he might flurry. The most profound words spoken during this fight was by Teddy Atlas during one of the rounds where he said to Moorer "There's something wrong with that guy." Because clearly that was not the same Holyfield and indeed, it came out shortly after that there was some heart ailment that needed attention. Next up: Holyfield-Moorer II

 

Yes!
They were brothers IIRC.

 

Holmes-Shavers 1

(1) 10-9 Holmes

(2) 10-9 Shavers . Razor close round but I thought Shavers with his harder punches squeaked it out

(3) Holmes 10-9

(4) Holmes 10-9

(5) Holmes 10-9

(6) Holmes 10-9

(7) Holmes 10-9

(8) Holmes 10-9

(9) Holmes 10-9

(10) Holmes 10-9

(11) Holmes 10-9

(12) Holmes 10-9

Final score Holmes 119-Shavers 109

Such a beautiful display of Boxing by Holmes. This fight showed why Holmes would be champion for years to come

Judges 120-108 Holmes,120-108 Holmes, 119-109 Holmes

 

We got to nearly the same place in nearly the same way: I gave Earnie the second round (narrowly), had an even round and gave Holmes a 10-8 round in the 12th as he cleaned up in the final round. Here’s my account:

Larry Holmes vs. Earnie Shavers, heavyweights, scheduled for 12 rounds at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas on March 25, 1978, in a WBC eliminator.

Larry, 28, is 26-0 and ranked No. 4 by the WBC. Earnie, 33, is 54-6-1 (53) and ranked third. Both weigh 210.

1 — Holmes 10-9: Starts with that drumbeat jab and closes strong, but Earnie got through with one big right.

2 — Shavers 10-9: Earnie lands four big rights. Larry commands most of the round with his right but Holmes is wary. One thing of note here: Holmes throws some beautiful left hooks, more than you usually see. I thought Shavers’ power shots edged it.

3 — Holmes 10-9: Jabbing and making Earnie miss. He’s dialed in.

4 — Holmes 10-9: Larry mixes it up and everything is working. His handspeed edge is apparent. (Larry’s trunks split this round and Richie Giachetti had someone go fetch a spare from the locker room and they changed them on the stool, haha.)

5 — Holmes 10-9: Larry hurts Shavers with a right and blisters him with the follow-up. He’s not afraid to trade or slug with the dangerous Earnie, who sustains a cut under his left eye.

6 — Even 10-10: Earnie opens up and is very aggressive in controlling the middle of the round, including some nice body work. Larry does his thing but Shavers’ work makes this round even on my card. (Round goes 3:10 due to timekeeper error.)

7 — Holmes 10-9: He batters Shavers in the last 15 seconds. If he hurt him a bit earlier I think he might have gotten him out of there.

8 — Holmes 10-9: Larry lands a sizzling uppercut and goes toe to toe. Earnie is starting to tire. Larry manhandles him in close.

9 — Holmes 10-9: Larry gets on his toes for the first time and dominates, including a big flurry off the ropes.

10 — Holmes 10-9: Larry moves and boxes, Earnie follows but starts using his jab and hook a bit more to make this one close. Still went with Holmes.

11 — Holmes 10-9: More of the same but Larry is pulling away at this point and Shavers can’t do much about it.

12 — Holmes 10-8: Larry keeps moving, some nice combos and accurate single shots, then finishes strong by wobbling Earnie in the final seconds and raking him over to the bell.

My card: Holmes 119-110. Official cards 120-108 x 2 (shutout) and 119-109.

This was Larry’s coming out party. Credit to Howard Cosell on the solo call, who really gets on the Holmes bandwagon to make it clear this is a quantum-leap performance that puts him firmly in the mix at the top of the heavyweight division while Leon Spinks and Ken Norton have the split titles with Jimmy Young, old Ali and Foreman all still in the picture. He raves about Holmes, and if you were around in the day whatever you think about him, Howard was an opinion-maker … when he said it, it carried weight.

Of note: On the undercard, Alexis Arguello, Michael Dokes and Carlos de Leon all won.

This is a masterclass, the first time we really see Holmes — who had certainly shown skill and some flashes before — steps into his own and displays true greatness against a massive puncher who wasn’t done yet (as his one-round demolition of Norton not too terribly much later would show).

 

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Albert Parr's debut.