the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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Watched Jimmy Young vs Ossie Ocassio 1 and 2 today
Both fights quite similar honestly but my scores were different from the judges with me having young as the winner for the first fight and the second fight being a draw.
Young was out of shape in the first fight and hadn't been fighting great for the first 4 rounds which probably cost him the fight. However Ossie was inconsistent, switching up from throwing combinations from distance too jumping in with leaping blows that Young could avoid. I thought Young put enough heart to scrape by in the first fight. Ossie, I think by memory, got warned 4 times for thumbing and something else I forgot about. This should've likely been a point deduction but I'm not here to play referee.

Second fight wasn't much different from the first but Ossie did foul a lot less. I do think the crowd had a slight influence on the judges but nothing outragous was on the score cards with all in having it Ossie 97-95. I had it as a draw and even then I wasn't sure as it felt like I was scoring rounds for Ossie because of the crowd really with him being inactive at times and landing very little significant blows.

 

E77, great writeup and welcome aboard.

 

Two spoilers is usually going to make for an awkward and hard-to-score fight because to some degree they’re negating each other.

As you noted, Young showed up for the first match looking like he trained at an ice cream parlor. For the second, he had obviously hit the gym and prepared himself because it was a make-or-break fight — win the rematch and probably get a shot at Holmes … lose and it’s down to gatekeeper status.

I had both for Ossie by slim margins, although I don’t have any notes from my scoring to give you tallies. It’s been years since I watched them. But both were close enough that I really couldn’t argue against a raw or Jimmy by a narrow margin.

Ossie had an odd rhythm that threw a lot of guys off. He zigged when opponents expected him to zag, so to speak. Gave Dokes fits the first time but he basically didn’t watch and try to figure out OO when they rematched — just came out throwing heat and steamrolled him.

 

Michael Nunn v Donald Curry (middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Nunn
Round 2: 10-9 Nunn
Round 3: 10-10 Even
Round 4: 10-9 Nunn
Round 5: 10-9 Nunn
Round 6: 10-9 Nunn
Round 7: 10-8 Nunn (scores a knockdown)
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Nunn
Round 10: Nunn drops and stops Curry

Total through 9 completed rounds: 90-82 Nunn (actual scores: 89-81, 89-81 and 88-82 all for Nunn)

I recall watching this back in the day and saying to myself, "It looks like a boy against a man." Indeed, Curry had no business at this weight. Especially not against a middleweight with the dimensions of Nunn. I will say, however, Curry threw more quality shots than Nunn. His left hook is one of the sharpest and most relaxed delivered blow I've seen and he caught Nunn with some beauties in rounds 4 and 6 also. However, the blizzard of shots coming from Nunn had to be almost suffocating to Curry and overcame any sparsely delivered quality shots that Curry could produce. The 2 knockdowns scored in rounds 7 and 10 were more from its incessant delivery than anything of quality. There was just no let up. Curry was never the same after the McCallum debacle. The Jacquot fight proved that. But he gave it a go and at least let Nunn know he was there. But really, out of his depth by this time.

 

Hmm,I wonder what will happen if Curry trained for Lloyd Honeyghan seriously without cutting much weight..

 

I re-watched this about 2 months ago. This was--like we see with the old great fighters---his last A+ effort and his chance to win another title. But Donald at that stage might win a title, but successful defenses? Nope. not happening.

But Curry showed that championship heart in there. He dug as deep as he could at the time. I actually think that is the best way for the old champs to go out---giving their all but just not anywhere near good enough against the young champ. And foget that Linton bout.

 

Roberto Duràn vs Vinny Paz I (IBC Super Middleweight [minor] Title Bout)

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Round 1: Duràn 10-9
Round 2: Duràn 20-17
Round 3: Duràn 30-26
Round 4: Draw 49-35
Round 5: Duràn 59-44
Round 6: Paz 68-54
Round 7: Duràn 68-63
Round 8: Draw 78-73
Round 9: Paz 87-83
Round 10: Duràn 97-92
Round 11: Paz 106-102
Round 12: Paz 115-112
Swing rounds:8,10
This fight shows how much a master Duràn is compared to a brawler,round 8 is very close,but it's a draw,round 10 Duràn perhaps outlanded Paz by those body and head shots a close margin,I do had Duràn winning a close fight,this wasn't really a robbery as it could go either way,even Duràn got away from losing round 4 as I deducted Paz for that rope leverage punch,but what makes it a semi-robbery is from it's scorecards,no way Paz led the entire fight with ease,it shall be something like a 1 to 3 points difference.

 

Some '70s brit fights.

Buchanan vs Brian Hudson for the british title. This was the fight right before the first Laguna bout. One I hadn't seen before. Buchanan looks very impressive here, though Hudson obviously has his limitations. This is regional champ Hudson's first big step up in class, having won all of his prevous fights except one cuts stoppage. He does show some talent...quite fast hands, throws plenty of good quality punches, including a nice up-angled left of his own, and he tags Buchanan with some hooks at mid-range and precise uppercuts inside. Durability and reflexes start unravelling quickly though, and doesn't have the footspeed to follow up the openings in that he creates with his own jab. It's basically a failed sub-world class attempt to fight the same sort of high intensity pressure fight Duran would pull off in a few years. Buchanan shows some excellent counterpunching, including some very fast right-hands and well disguised uppercuts that land very flush as Hudson tries to punch his way in. Every time he gets caught, and Hudson looks like he might be able to follow up with a combination, Ken fires right back and wins the exchanges, or spins away with some flashy defence along the ropes/in the corners. Hudson was out of the sport fairly quickly after this, following another few cuts losses.

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Vernon Sollas vs Evan Armstrong

Sollas was a good amatuer that had become the latest hyped prospect and is making a second step up in class after losing a decision in the last one. Armstrong a big punching but basic pressure fighter that had been around as a fringe contender for a long time, but had lost all of his steps into world level against Chucho Castillo, Jose Medel, Alan Rudkin, and twice against Jose Legra. The 1968 Medel fight in Mexico probably being his high point, as it seems to have been considered a controversial decision loss. You can see why Sollas was hyped...he's got smooth skills, speed, and very nice movement, looking something like a cross between a small Conteh and Johnny Famechon in the early rounds...but he quickly proves not to have the stamina, durability or survival instincts for the pro game, gets broken down by steady pressure and brutally stopped. He had no idea what to do once hurt and didn't seem to have any recovery ability. Doesn't seem like he ever recovered from this, i've seen a few of his later fights and he doesn't look like he had any legs or chin left.

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I've been binging on Little Red this morning. What a time to be a fight fan. Somehow things would get even better as 130 pounds heated up and gave us not only some of the best fights of the decade, but some of the best fights, period.

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Russ, when this fight was signed I have to admit I was torn between who would take this fight. I normally would have edged it towards Lopez but he had taken so long between this fight and the Kotey fight (I didn't think much of his 2 non-titles) I felt he would have been a bit rusty, because I knew Torres as one big banger. But regardless, the end result was a good fight.

 

Paul Ingle v Mbuele Botile (featherweight title)

I don't usually like reviewing fights with a somewhat tragic end, but knowing Ingle recovered made this more palatable. Ingle had an incredible engine and could box and move with the best, but his lack of a real dig and endless courage put him behind the eight-ball with Botile. It was the South African's heavier shots that kept ticking away the rounds on my card. I only gave Ingle the 2nd round and a share of the 5th for a 109-100 card (actual scores 106-103, 107-102 and 106-102 all for Botile). Perhaps I was being too rough on him as he really went into another gear in the 9th and 10th to try to stem this tide, but again, Botile's heavier shots were impressing me more. It's easy to look back with hindsight but I thought when he returned to his corner ending the 11th, after getting dropped late in the round it should have been stopped. And that was solely because of facial damage at that point. But clearly he was a warrior and the corner had the same mentality. Does anyone know how Ingle is doing today?

 

Just watched this one. Didn't see it available online so I uploaded it for you guys. Enjoy. I'm a big Weir fan but can't seem to find much of him, which is a shame.

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Scar did you ever score Nunn's fights vs Scully or his 1st fight vs Cordoba ? Challenging fights to score IMO. Scully vs Nunn is an interesting one Nunn clearly outworked Scully but Scully landed all the eye catching shots the scorecards were also abysmal 120-108 for Nunn.