the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

D, I saw the first fight between Nunn and Cordoba. Is the fight with Scully any good? Here is how I saw Nunn-Cordoba:

Victor Cordoba v Michael Nunn I (super middleweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Cordoba
Round 2: 10-9 Cordoba
Round 3: 10-9 Cordoba
Round 4: 10-9 Nunn
Round 5: 10-9 Nunn
Round 6: 10-9 Nunn
Round 7: 10-9 Nunn
Round 8: 10-9 Cordoba
Round 9: 10-9 Nunn (scored the round Even but 1 point deducted from Cordoba for a low blow)
Round 10: 10-8 Cordoba (scores a knockdown)
Round 11: 10-9 Nunn
Round 12: 10-9 Nunn

Total: 114-113 Nunn (actual scores: 114-113 and 114-112 for Nunn. With a 114-112 for Cordoba, Nunn wins a split decision)

Nunn was elated to win the decision and title, but I remember watching this live at the time and would have felt anything but elation. This was Nunn getting into the twilight of his career. Because he took way too many punches in this fight. Man, Cordoba couldn't miss with anything. A very close fight

 

It's a solid fight Scar not boring like some of Nunn's other fights definitely worth watching. It will test your scoring abilities as Nunn is literally outworking Scully 2 to 1 but Scully is landing all the eye catching single punches.

I have seen a few people score it for Scully before its definitely way more competitive than the judges would have you believe.

 

Fabio Wardley v Frazer Clarke (British title)

Round 1: 10-9 Clarke
Round 2: 10-9 Wardley
Round 3: 10-9 Wardley
Round 4: 10-9 Clarke
Round 5: 10-8 Wardley (scores a knockdown)
Round 6: 10-9 Wardley
Round 7: 9-9 Even (Clarke's round but 1 point deducted for a low blow)
Round 8: 10-9 Clarke
Round 9: 10-9 Clarke
Round 10: 10-10 Even
Round 11: 10-9 Wardley
Round 12: 10-10 Even

Total: 115-113 Wardley (actual scores: 114-113 Wardley, 115-112 Clarke, and a 113-113 for a Draw)

D, I think you and I saw things very similarly. Moreover, I agree that this was as good a draw as there was. Y'know, I'm not a fan of today's heavyweights. They're slow, cumbersome, easily exhausted and the likelihood of them loaded on PEDs are high. However, these two combined to put on a decent show even though I was still screaming for them to "get in there!". Wardley lacks every ounce of fundamentals one would learn at the grassroots level. And Clarke, who did possess more of a working knowledge of boxing, lacked that innate fire to get stuck in when he should have. But I did enjoy the contest. Thanks for putting it on our radar.

 

That's why I score fights in slow motion,to see thru the punches more clearly.

 

That definitely has benefits if you really want to dig deep into parts of a fight on rewatches, but imo if you're doing a serious scoring attempt you should keep it at the proper speed that the judges themselves were viewing. Otherwise you're not really seeing the fight as it took place.

 

Hmm,I'll try to see it on real time to test my eye accuracy...

 

Watched what Pryor described as his hardest, and most grueling bout ever.

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Alexis Arguello vs Ray Mancini

1 Mancini
2 Mancini
3 Mancini
4 Mancini
5 Mancini
6 Mancini
7 Arguello
8 Arguello
9 Mancini
10 Arguello
11 Arguello
12 Arguello 10-8 knockdown
13 Arguello
14 Arguello wins by TKO

123-123 Even

Mancini fought well early on he wasn't overly aggressive and fought quite measured in his attack instead of his normal swarming style. I thought Mancini quite clearly won the first 6 rounds but the fight remained competitive and it's not surprising to see Arguello to get off to a slow start and work his back into the fight.

The 7th round the momentum started to shift as Arguello started landing more eye catching punches whilst Mancini started to slow down. To Mancini's credit he gave it one last big effort at the end of the 9th round and the beginning of the 10th round but you could see the sand was running out of Mancini's hourglass as Arguello got stronger and stronger.

I have to say the fight wasn't as exciting as i remembered not that i'm saying it was a bad fight but it was more of tactical boxing match than a brawl.

 

Where did the guy that made this thread go? He was posting rapidly, then just disappeared suddenly…

 

Play it at double speed but only watch with half your attention. It will even out.

 

Michael Brodie In Jin Chi 1

1 Chi
2 Chi 10-8 knockdown
3 Brodie
4 Brodie
5 Chi
6 Brodie
7 Brodie
8 Brodie
9 Chi
10 Chi
11 Chi
12 Chi

115-112 Chi

Decided to watch this great fight again i've always felt this was a bad decision it's one of those very competitive fights that was close but a very clear points win. I don't really see any argument for Brodie getting a draw he faded down the stretch and Chi clearly outworked him. I have to say i am very surprised Chi was able to finish stronger as Brodie really invested to the body punching in the middle rounds so you'd think that would wear down Chi but it was Brodie who faded.

As i said above very memorable fight but a bad decision Chi clearly won in a competitive fight.

PS Chi's chin is ridiculous.

 

D, saw this for the first time about 6 months ago. Awesome fight. Here is how I had it:

Michael Brodie v In Jin Chi I (vacant featherweight title)

Round 1: 10-8 Chi (Chi's round and Brodie deducted a point for an unintentional headbutt)
Round 2: 10-8 Chi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Brodie
Round 4: 10-9 Brodie
Round 5: 10-9 Chi
Round 6: 10-9 Brodie
Round 7: 10-9 Brodie
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Chi
Round 10: 10-9 Chi
Round 11: 10-9 Chi
Round 12: 10-10 Even

Total: 116-112 Chi (actual scores: 114-112 Chi and 2 scores of 113-113 for a majority draw)

Man, you have to break this fight down in 2 parts. The actual match, which was exceptional, and then the complete hash-job the officials performed.

Regarding the fight: fantastic! Brodie was so strong and should have stuck to his strong jab to move Chi to the ropes where he performed well. But Chi had other ideas and would fire back where his sharp hooks and bottomless tank took Brodie's measure. I believe I gave Brodie credit for everything and British announcers Glenn McCrory and Ian Darke had comparable cards to mine, so I was somewhat amazed at the closeness of the scores.

The officials: They sucked! What an unprofessional ending from a set of WBC/British officials. For one, the referee apparently deducted a point from Brodie, which was clearly accidental as they both were moving in and where Brodie was the one actually cut. We didn't even know this until the TV cameras moved in while they were screwing up their cards and saw the point deduction which no one knew about. Then tallying the cards up took forever. I think they would have tallied it up quicker with an abacus. Moreover, even with Jose Sulaiman jumping in and adding things up, they still screwed it up and announced a majority decision for Chi and even had the poor guy wearing the championship belt before taking it away a half hour later when they stated that the judge who had it 113-112 for Chi added wrong and made it 113-113 for a majority draw. What a mess of an ending to a great fight.

 

I thought I had scored this for this thread at some point but can’t put my fingers on it.

From memory, I had AA putting ahead (narrowly) by the time of the KO, but as noted the handwriting was on the wall.

Still a very mature fight by Mancini that really made me see him in a different light — as you said, didn’t come swarm in with both barrels but instead worked hard at a steady pace, didn’t ignore the body and fought for the long haul. Getting into a shootout with Arguello was no bargain, but Alexis still wore him down and, when the Mancini engine began to sputter a bit AA put his foot on the gas.

Good account.

 

He descended into years of alcoholism and low-level organised crime. A sad story.

 

I thought you're Mantequilla though...