the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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Eusebio Pedroza v Patrick Ford (featherweight title)

Round 1: 10-10 Even
Round 2: 10-9 Ford
Round 3: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 4: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 5: 10-10 Even
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 8: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 9: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 10: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 11: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 12: 10-9 Pedroza
Round 13: Pedroza drops and stops Ford

Total through 12 completed rounds: 119-112 Pedroza (actual scores: 120-109, 118-113 and 120-113 all for Pedroza)

I remember this when it took place but I had forgotten that it was a pretty decent fight. I recall thinking this was going to be tight after the showing of Ford against Sanchez, but as they say, 'Horses for Courses'. Pedroza just took it to the slender Ford's body and worked it like the attrition fighter he was. He wasn't a Zarate to the body, more like Albert Davila. Just keeping whittling away at the other fighter's body and resolve, which is what happened here in the 13th. A terrific performance by Pedroza against a damn good opponent.

 

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Vinny Paz UD15 Greg Haugen (IBF lightweight title)
1: Greg 10-9
2: Greg 20-18
3: draw 30-28
4: Greg 40-37
5: Paz 49-47
6: Greg 59-56
7: draw 69-66
8: Greg 79-75
9: Greg 89-84
10: Paz 98-94
11: Paz 107-104
12: Greg 117-113
13: Greg 127-122
14: Paz 136-132
15: draw 146-142
Very close fight at some rounds,but I prefer Greg as his punches looked more convincing,it could've gone either way, although...as it was on Paz's hometown and he looked like he missed many punches early,this was probably a bad decision.

 

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Lupe Pintor vs Alberto Davila(WBC Bantamweight title)
1: Dàvila 10-9
2: Dàvila 20-18
3: Lupe 29-28
4: Dàvila 39-37
5: Dàvila 49-46
6: draw 59-56
7: Dàvila 69-65
8: Dàvila 79-74
9: Dàvila 89-83
10: Lupe 98-93
11; Dàvila 108-102
12: Lupe 117-112
13: Lupe 126-122
14: Lupe 135-132
15: Dàvila 145-141
Imo,I thought Davila was the one landing much more accurate clean blows,and guarded from Pintor's shots good,while Pintor did rally good in the late,final round Davila really just won't let him do so,I don't think he was robbed either as this could go either way at some rounds, depends whether you liked more clean accurate punches or just destructive rocking shots in general, it's a good display of flowing between the inside and the outside,so watch it.

 

@FThabxinfan , scored this about 2 years ago. Looking at our cards, we agreed on only 9 of the 15 rounds. But that's OK. I agree with you that these were some razor close rounds where anyone could see things differently. This is just another reason why i love this thread. Anyways, here is what I wrote:

Lupe Pintor v Albert Davila II (bantamweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Pintor
Round 2: 10-9 Davila
Round 3: 10-9 Davila
Round 4: 10-9 Pintor
Round 5: 10-9 Davila
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 10-9 Davila
Round 8: 10-9 Pintor
Round 9: 10-9 Pintor
Round 10: 10-9 Pintor
Round 11: 10-9 Davila
Round 12: 10-9 Pintor
Round 13: 10-9 Pintor
Round 14: 10-9 Pintor
Round 15: 10-9 Pintor

Total: 145-141 Pintor (actual scores: 146-142, 143-142 and a 143-143 Even for a majority decision for Pintor)

I've been meaning to have a look-see at this fight as I haven't seen it since I saw it live. Man, what took me so long? I loved this fight. Such sharp, clean punches throughout the night. It didn't bode well for Davila down the stretch as that's Pintor's wheel-house. He just had that ability to accelerate down the stretch. Again, brilliant fight.

 

I mean, sometimes at the inside or blow 4 blow sequences really depends on what you preferred when you score fights, consistent accurate and clean punches,or just basically clean cracking one shotters

 

FT, have you seen Davila's bout with Enrique Sanchez? You'd love it.

 

Carlos Ortiz v Ismael Laguna III (lightweight title) (NY rounds scoring basis)

Round 1: Ortiz
Round 2: Even
Round 3: Laguna
Round 4: Ortiz
Round 5: Ortiz
Round 6: Ortiz
Round 7: Ortiz
Round 8: Even
Round 9: Even
Round 10: Ortiz
Round 11: Ortiz
Round 12: Laguna
Round 13: Ortiz
Round 14: Ortiz
Round 15: Ortiz

Total: 10-2-3 Ortiz (actual scores: 10-4-1, 10-4-1 and 11-3-1 all for Ortiz)

I don't know what it was with Laguna in this fight. When he was on the outside he was firing flashy combos but invariably, he ended up on the inside infighting with Ortiz. Now, that was Ortiz' wheelhouse. He was so damn strong on the inside that even when he was grabbing a breather he was outpunching Laguna inside. It was a good fight, marred a bit by the frequent clinches, but the infighting at least papered over those cracks.

If watching, there are 2 versions out there. One with a French commentary and one with a Don Dunphy commentary. The French version had a clearer picture but it was missing round 5. I jumped over to the Dunphy version for that round and back again to the clearer French vid, if this is a help.

 

Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Serhii Bohachuk

1 Bohachuk 10-9 originally ruled a slip but later changed to a official knockdown.
2 Ortiz
3 Ortiz
4 Bohachuk
5 Ortiz close
6 Bohachuk
7 Bohachuk
8 Bohachuk 10-8 knockdown
9 Ortiz close
10 Ortiz
11 Ortiz
12 Ortiz

114-113 Ortiz

@scartissue I'm not if you've seen this fight but it's a very good one clean consistent punching all the way and is a strong candidate for FOTY this year. If you do score it i'd be interested to see how you score the knockdown rounds because i think Ortiz has an argument for those rounds being only 10-9.

The 1st round knockdown was ruled a slip later changed to an official knockdown after seeing the replay. For me it was a flash knockdown not really much of a knockdown and Ortiz clearly won the round hence i scored it 10-9.

The 8th round knockdown Bohachuk landed a good left hook and Ortiz's gloves touched the canvas. Ortiz did comeback very strongly in that round and i think there is some argument that it could've been 10-9 round. But i think Bohachuk did enough good work early on along with the knockdown which was from a solid punch i think the 10-8 round was just about warranted in this case.

I thought Ortiz just about did enough by winning the later rounds but but that's with me scoring a 10-9 round for one of the knockdown rounds. So unless you score one of the knockdown rounds 10-9 i think a draw maybe would've been a better result, two judges had Ortiz winning 8 rounds but i can't see that personally.

 

I rewatched Juan Estrada v Carlos Cuadras 2 this morning.

It’s one of the best fights I’ve seen and stands comparison with any of the great fights of the past.

It’s just such a shame it didn’t take place in front of a sell-out crowd, rather than feeling like a gym war - a matchup and match of that quality deserved so much better.

 

Carlos Zarate vs Paul Ferreri

Thoroughly one-sided, I gave every round to Zarate. There may have even been a few 10-8 rounds in there somewhere down the stretch, but Ferreri would always punch back so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

Watching Zarate was frustrating here. This could have been done and dusted within 5 rounds if he had shown a bit more craft and set his man up more with the jab, but he seemed content with rushing forward throwing lead right hands which were quite predictable.

As for Ferreri, his corner were a disgrace. I would have pulled him out shortly after the cut opened. He wasn't going to hurt Zarate and he had lost every round on my scorecard. Eventually Steele stopped the fight himself. Good call.

 

Been binge-watching Chavez fights recently. I haven't been scoring them really but I watched his fight against Panamanian Rodolfo Aguilar earlier today and I thought Chavez pretty comprehensively beat up Aguilar, bullying him around the ring and slipping Aguilar's best shots. At best, I thought you could've given Aguilar the 3rd and, at a stretch, the 4th. The HBO commentary was very bitter for this fight though, they heaped praise on Aguilar for actually throwing punches and not just running or getting blasted out early then heavily scrutinised Chavez for having even the slightest inconveniences like struggling to put combinations together against a southpaw mover. What made this commentary even more frustrating was that that bitter old fart Larry Merchant - who earlier in the broadcast was bloviating about Chavez being hard-done by the boxing intelligentsia for the simple fact of being Mexican - was constantly yammering on about whether Chavez looked P4P or not and questioning the legitimacy of Chavez's claim for P4P no. 1 at the time based on his performance. Anyway, Chavez did seem a bit stifled once or twice due to Aguilar being the first southpaw Chavez had fought as a pro but he nonetheless methodically pressured and broke down Aguilar en route to a stoppage in the 6th from a lovely looping right hand to the temple of Aguilar. Rant over.

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Here's how I scored it.

 

DG, saw this a bit ago and enjoyed the fight. This is what i wrote:

Julio Cesar Chavez v Rodolfo Aguilar (lightweight title)

Round 1: 10-8 Chavez (scores a knockdown)
Round 2: 10-9 Aguilar
Round 3: 10-9 Aguilar
Round 4: 10-9 Chavez
Round 5: 10-9 Chavez
Round 6: Chavez drops and stops Aguilar

Total through 5 completed rounds: 48-46 Chavez (actual scores: 48-46 and 2 scores of 49-45 all for Chavez)

To begin, I fast-forwarded to round 1 and neglected to look at the sanctioning body. One always relates Chavez to the WBC and I was there thinking that this was very strange, that the WBC is rating a Panamanian as their #1 contender. Normally it's the WBA who rates undeserving Panamanians, Venezuelans and South Koreans as their #1 contender. I had forgotten that Chavez won the WBA from Rosario and this was a WBA defense. When I saw that, the usual corrupt organizational rating meant sense to me once again. It's bad that I have to say that but those countries were so in bed with the WBA we just automatically compartmentalize the cash-cow countries with their sanctioning counterparts.

OK, that's me on my soapbox for today. On to the fight. Although Aguilar had fast, rangy hands, he had fought no one to get his rating or this fight and really could have used some seasoning. Chavez did his patient, methodical beat down with precision. First by taking the heart from Aguilar and then the body. Good stoppage by Steele as Aguilar was done like dinner.

 

It's a fun fight and Aguilar does have some good moments, he was certainly very game. It just bugged me that the commentary was making it seem like Aguilar was putting a clinic on Chavez for a 3 rounds when I personally feel Aguilar was getting mugged and walked down in pretty much every round. I like your assessment though, of the fight and of sanctioning body corruption.