the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sal, saw this a while ago. Loved the fight but didn't care for their rematch. Anyways, this is how I saw it as well as that crazy 3rd round:

    Kevin Kelley v Derrick Gainer I (featherweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Gainer
    Round 2: 10-9 Gainer
    Round 3: 10-9 Kelley (Kelley scores a knockdown and so does Gainer but Gainer's is disallowed)
    Round 4: 10-8 Gainer (scores a knockdown)
    Round 5: 10-8 Kelley (scores a knockdown)
    Round 6: 10-9 Kelley
    Round 7: 10-9 Gainer
    Round 8: Kelley KOs Gainer

    Total through 7 completed rounds: 66-65 Gainer (actual scores not known)

    This was a fun fight! The way Gainer was ripping Kelley from the center of the ring, it was his to lose and he did so from a one-punch bomb by Kelley. Not remembering the result of this fight, I actually thought during the 8th round that Kelley's cornerman Phil Borgia should consider stopping the fight with his one-eyed fighter under heavy bombardment. And then, out of the blue, POW! Regarding my score, I should explain the 3rd round. Gainer was winning the round and then landed a shot on Kelley's jaw as he was slipping to the canvas. The ref Santore's eyes were probably fixated on Gainer going down and the fact that Kelley went down a mili-second after was unnoticed, but he went down hard. I couldn't disregard this and when Kelley scored an official knockdown a few moments later, I only gave him the round by 10-9. Harold Lederman scored the round 10-10, which according to him, he had the latitude to do so. I would have to read the unified rules, but I wouldn't contradict Harold. Anyways, I would definitely recommend this fight to you all. I really never liked Gainer, but he fought well in this bout.
     
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Continuing my Ken Buchanan fest, here is....

    Ken Buchanan v Brian Hudson (British lightweight title)

    Round 1: Buchanan (scores a knockdown)
    Round 2: Buchanan
    Round 3: Even
    Round 4: Buchanan
    Round 5: Buchanan KOs Hudson

    Despite the one-sidedness of the score, it was quite a lively fight with Hudson really making a go of it after that disastrous first round. In fact, going into the 5th, both combatants were cut over their left eyes respectively. But Kenny had that world class about him and he really turned it on when he needed it. But a good fight.
     
  3. Mike Cannon

    Mike Cannon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hi Buddy.
    I have had many a chat with Brian over the years usually after an LEBA function in and around north London, for a attacking aggressive fighter, he was quite shy and unassuming ( like most boxers ) apart from a slightly flat nose, he looked really well, and spoke in soft tones, as you would expect he had high praise for Buchanan, said he knew Ken was destined for bigger things, also said that Jimmy Anderson hit like a MW, and if he closes his eyes he can still feel the body punches from the heavy handed Armstrong, i remember their fight, it was on WOS one Saturday afternoon, and it was a fight for the ages, knockdowns on both sides, before Brian came out on top with a stoppage, when old timers get together, this brawl is always mentioned, those were the days.....
    stay safe scart, chat soon buddy.
    Mike.
     
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  4. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seems Gainer fell pretty hard after this fight, though he was in a number of high=profile bouts later. Since it was short, I also watched his match with Diego Corrales after this one. While it was indeed an unnecessarily early stoppage, I don't think it really mattered. He was going to get stopped no matter what. His legs weren't even close to what they were the first time against Kelley.
     
  5. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've have seen highlights of this fight many times over the years, but oddly, never sat down to score it. A point which will be remedied now.

    Ken Buchanan v Roberto Duran (lightweight title) - NY rounds scoring

    Round 1: Duran (scores a knockdown)
    Round 2: Duran
    Round 3: Duran
    Round 4: Duran
    Round 5: Duran
    Round 6: Buchanan
    Round 7: Duran
    Round 8: Duran
    Round 9: Buchanan
    Round 10: Buchanan
    Round 11: Duran
    Round 12: Duran
    Round 13: Duran
    Bout is stopped when Duran tags Buchanan low after the bell and the ref awards the bout to Duran

    Total through 13 completed rounds: 10-3 Duran (actual scores: 8-3-1, 8-3-1 and 9-3 all for Duran. For some odd reason the only scores posted from the ring officials are through 12 rounds, which doesn't make sense as the bell ended the 13th and should be scored for its content. Whatever happened in the second or two after the bell should be irrelevant to the score. The AP also scored through 12 (9-3) but Ring Magazine scored through 13 (7-4-2))

    Duran mugged Buchanan through 13 rounds and was awarded the fight. When one considers that Buchanan also lost to Suzuki when the Japanese mugged him the last five rounds, Duran may have written the template on how to fight the Scot. I will say one thing on this fight. Buchanan always ripped on the ref Johnny Lobianco for letting Duran get away with the rough stuff all night. And it isn't until watching it that I see what he meant. Duran used his head like a pry bar against Ken and he was right, not a peep all night out of Lobianco. That was a pure crap job of reffing from Lobianco.