the win that got Duran into the top 10?

You lied on a previous thread when you wrote that Duran was naturally bigger than Benitez. That is a lie. You wrote that Duran fought at 154 before Hearns and Benitez. Fair enough. But that does NOT make Duran naturally bigger than those 2. That claim simply isn't logical. And you NEVER avoid a Duran thread on the Classic. Why you lied about that I've no idea. In fact you make threads that have nothing to do with Duran into threads about him. And if Leonard was "not yet a great fighter" when he fought Duran, then according to that logic, Benitez could not have been a great fighter because as we all know Leonard knocked him out before Lenny fought Duran. Again, you've no logic there. If you prefer to avoid commenting on Duran in various threads and would like to not "be drawn into his threads"atsch, I'll make a deal with you. You don't comment on any more Duran threads, and I won't comment on any more of your comments. Just for the record, people don't write "Where's Mag?" because they want you to repeat the same illogic. They just expect you to comment about Duran because you can't help yourself.

 

This is one of the best posts I have ever read on ESB:good. Nicely done, Van the Man:good:yep

 

He ain't in my top 10 but beating a peak Leonard is his defining victory.

 

:happy:happy

 

i've had trouble justifying it lately but honestly he's in mine because i simply cannot think of 10 fighters...EVER...who were better than him

 

I'd go for

Robinson
Greb
Armstrong
Langford
Fitzsimmons
Charles
Ali
Leonard
Moore
Pep

Although something feels a bit off there so I think I missed someone. Its something like that though. Maybe I'd put Duran above Pep but I'm not sure yet.

 

fair list. in terms of who is just plain better, i'd probably put duran above ali (that pains me...) and pep. duran just brought more to the table

 

In terms of who's better he's in my top 5 I think

Robinson
Whittaker
Jones
Armstrong
Duran
Leaonard
Hearns
Hagler
Ali
Pep

 

Duran is an absolute lock for my top 10.

 

Wow I'm the last person you could accuse of underrating this victory mate.

 

i like it...though i'm finding i'm much harder on hagler in recent times. he could box, he could brawl and his boxer-puncher performances were fantastic but he had trouble ad******g and switching styles mid-fight

won it or not, the duran fight always strikes me as a knock against him

for pep, i really dig him and respect his record and abilities but on the post prime film we have, prefer the defense of locche and whitaker and his offense is pretty minimal