The winner of the super 6 would of trumped Calzaghe's career in little over 2 years?

they all have a longway to go before passing joe. i didn't read your whole post though.

 

So are we gonna rank Ward over Calzaghe, is that basically what you're saying?

 

This was a much better calzaghe thread than most, I think whoever wins S6 then beats Bute can argue they have a betetr resume but they wont be classed as better overall until they show some form of longetivity. Beating S6 and Bute tho for sure puts them in a position to eclipse him given enough time. Also if Kessler wins then despite a betetr resume he would still always be remebered for fact he couldnt actually beat Calzaghe himself. If Ward wins much will also depend upn if he starts to fight away, because if not he will be labelled a skilled but stay at home fighter just like Calzaghe.

 

Hhhmmmm. Interested in seeing some of the reponses from our more reasonable Calzaghe lovin brothers across the pond.

 

I am not sure if the winner of the Super Six will surpass him on an ATG (even though I feel he should not be considered an ATG) Level. Though all 6 of these fighters have already face stiffer competition then Joe. I will never forgive Joe for blatantly ducking Glen Johnson.

 

Possibly if the winner is andre ward and comes out undefeated, and then beats bute after. the super six makes joe's career seem pretty whack of ward does this

 

Bute rated #1 its absurd and shows the lack of class and quality in the smw div.

 

What if the winner is Kessler? Or Froch, who lost to Kessler?

 

if they beat bute maybe at smw but joe was also the ring champ at lhw so he is still ahead

 

Joe Calzaghe is the most accomplished 168 lb champ

10 years on top the most defenses how does winning a tounament where arguably the best man in the division isnt involved trump a guy who was great for 10 years

Say what you want about Joe and how he didnt fight Toney or Hopkins or Jones in their prime but that doesnt take away from what he did accomplish

He did beat Eubank for his belt

Beat Hopkins who was a reigning and defensding champ a weight above

Beat Jones who was only 3 years older

too bad Joe never got the best in the ring in their primes so that leaves questions

but how is that 100 percent all his fault

the guy who wins the S6 will have to stay on top another 8 or so years to beat out Joe

 

LOL, good thread, but Brits care little about what opposition Calfaggy has or has not met. They will say he is a great in spite of his NEVER Ever having fought a prime great. He has never ever even fought a prime ATG in his entire career. atsch
Brits would call Calfaggy a great even if all he had fought was Mr. Bean and Dr.Who.
In short, the British know nothing about the sport of boxing.

 

The Super Six:

Ward: good
Greene: wank
Abraham: overrated and slow
Dirrell: slippery wet *****
Froch: overrated sooo much
Kessler: good

Everyones actiing like the super six is some generation defining tournament with all the best fighters. if ward wins it, which he is expected to, then thats no huge feat seen as everyone else in it, besides kessler, are average boxers. the super six is a tournament to make average fighters look like good fighters.

even if ward wins it and then beats bute, he will not have matched calzaghes career, let alone surpassed it!!

however, if ward wins it, beats bute then stays undefeated for the rest of his career, then yes i'd say he will have surpassed calzaghe.

guys calzaghe beat, like sheika, brewer, reid, ashira and maybe even woodall (lol yeah i said it) would have beaten most of the guys in the super six!!!

 

atsch:nut

Without arseholes this place would be boring:hi:

 

good points funny how Dirrel and Ward were just prospects before and abraham was an obscure German 160 holder Froch was still shaky Taylor was past it and Green is a never was