The Women's 2 minute rounds.

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  1. Likethembigroundchunky

    Likethembigroundchunky Member Full Member

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    Is there an official statement as to why they're 2 minute rounds as opposed to 3?

    I don't like watching women fight each other. Its not just about the skill of the contestants as I don't like watching the UFC ladies either and they're brilliant. Just something about women punching each other doesn't appeal.

    I do think though that in 5 - 10 years it will signicantly improve skill wise as its inspiring younger talent to start coming through.
     
  2. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would love to see a return to 15 round title fights in the heavyweight division. Nobody's dehydrating to make weight. Also return to 8 oz gloves....cte and all that.
     
  3. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The urge and enjoyment of being in a fighting sport is something that appeals mainly to men.

    Anyone who knows anything about male and female nature knows this. The numbers of women boxing will always be too small, for the talent pool to be big enough to make it an ejoyable spectable.

    Simple male and female nature...

    It is the same reason why the talent pool in mens gymnastics and ballet is shockingly small compared to women. Most men arent attracted to those sports, they are feminine type sports.
     
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  4. Robney

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    My theory it's merely to keep the treshold low for women to pick up boxing, not that most women wouldn't be capable.
    And to mask the enormous quality difference between men's boxing somewhat too.

    Once 3 minute rounds are implemented, there will be more KO's for sure. But also more damage done to the lesser females.
    This creates aversion to pick it up, and combined with longer rounds, the real weak ones conditionally will look even worse.

    The strongest divisions in womens boxing are empty as it is, with journeywomen (is that the right term? :lol:) occupying the top10.
    The biggest divisions (168+) don't even have a complete top20, with winless(!!!) women in the top10.
    So, I don't think it will change anytime soon.
     
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  5. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Then don’t box
     
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  6. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That's all likely true.

    2 minute rounds and a maximum of 10 rounds mean women only fight for 20 minutes compared to men's 36 but women also get 50% rest in between rounds compared to men's 33%.

    Women have evolved to take punches better than they can throw them and most of the punches they have taken through history have been from the stronger sex. The gloves they wear are also the same size as men's, which proportionately reduces women's power more.

    Women comparatively lack aggression, pride and the confidence in their power to come out swinging if they are hurt and women are less likely to jump on a hurt opponent because of their greater risk aversion and lack of killer instinct, making them happier to take it to points.

    The reasons for a lack of KO's in women's boxing are time-based, physical and psychological. The KO ratios are actually a lot higher (lol) than they would be if women's boxing was a higher quality sport. If the women were generally as evenly-matched as the men, the KO ratio would be something like 10%.
     
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  7. NEETzschean

    NEETzschean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Another factor: people would be bored stiff of a 36 minute women's boxing match. The women would also have to fight at a far slower pace and in a more cautious manner than they do currently lol. Financially, 10 x 2 works best for women's boxing. Most boxing fans don't want to see women get seriously hurt or separated from their senses in any case.
     
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  8. kirk

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    But they are getting hit by significantly softer punches. Youd think thered be some sort of balancing out effect.
     
  9. kirk

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    :clap:
    :thumbsup:
     
  10. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    This an actual hit against anyone who thinks a woman can do well against a man less stamina
     
  11. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although knockouts are spectacular, boxing is not all about them. I like to see major skills on display along with ring generalship. I can enjoy a fight were the fighters punches are sharp and precise without a knockout. Women can achieve that level and there is no doubt about it. Then every once in a while. a bruiser will show up with real knockout power. It just takes time. Look at some of the really old male fights. them dudes would be laughed out of the ring these days. That is why I think that women should fight three minute rounds and twelve round championship fights. It will bring out the best in them.
     
  12. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    I'm not sure I agree with your assertion about longer rounds leading to more excitement.

    What's generally more exciting? Round 11 or round 4? I would contend late rounds are less exciting: When boxers are tired, they have less KO power and less activity, and that's a big part of why KOs are generally pretty unlikely in round 12. Now, I think there are other factors as to why KO12s are rare, but I tend to think exhaustion is probably a factor that does significantly decrease KOs.

    I would also contend that the longer we make matches (both in number of rounds and round duration), the more boring it gets because boxers must make plans to "conserve stamina" for the later rounds. They need enough energy for the long haul. If we switched to, for example, 10 rounds instead of 12, then boxers could more freely expend their pools of energy and perhaps make fights more dynamic.

    Now, I know we do indeed have matches that are only 4 rounds -- and they suck -- but I would argue it's just because the talent pool for 4 round fights is terrible. It's bum fights with complete novices and untrained people -- it doesn't mean much. Now, what would AJ or Wilder do if they only had 6 rounds? I personally think it would probably be more exciting.

    I do want to acknowledge you can probably make rounds too short. 2 minutes per round may just not be enough for fighters to find their rhythm and get KOs. I think that's a reasonable claim, and 2 min rounds might indeed cause a dramatic decrease in KOs. So I'm not necessarily saying shorter rounds are better, I'm just saying your argument about fatigue leading to more KOs seems flawed to me.
     
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  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    i thought they wanted equality
     
  14. IsaL

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    One of the several reasons I dislike women's boxing IS because of the 2 min round rule they have.

    I feel that boxing is about figuring out your opponent, and finding a rhythm. When you only have two minutes to do that before resetting I feel it disrupts the flow of the fight.
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    WMMA has no such difference. I also find this difference weird in tennis. It's best of 3 for women in Grand Slams and best of 5 for men. I see no reason for that.