Then how does Peter win at all?

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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    There are many here who say that Peter doesn't have very impressive power, nor a very good chin. His stamina is apparently terrible as well. And it's obvious to everyone that the man has little skill (I happen to agree with this last one).

    So if Peter is that bad, how did he beat Toney twice and McCline?
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Peter has now become underrated.

    But, boxing fans are the scum of the earth, so there you have it.
     
  3. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    He beat Toney because he was able to land the harder shots and get the attention of the judges in the 1st fight.

    In the second Toney fight, he was able to win because Toney was getting older and because he used his height and reach advantage, keeping a distance, using the jab, and counter punching.

    In the McCline fight, he won because of his heart, recuperative powers, ability to keep his composure, aggression, and his jab.


    For a guy 6-1 and 250 pounds, he's not fat and he does seem to have pretty good stamina. He's not the most skilled guy around, but he does have skills.
     
  4. swedeone

    swedeone Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bingo. What he said. :good
     
  5. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Those people are usually morons, who make assumptions on one fight. After Peter knocks somebody out and takes some good shots, I gurantee this fight will be forgotten. In most of his career, he has shown a lot of power and a great chin. one fight does not change that.

    He still has one punch nkockout power, yet lacks the skill to apply it. I have't seen him land a sweet shot on anyone flush in a long time.

    I stil think his chin is very good too. I don't know what happened against McCline, but I'm guessing he got caught with a shot which totally messed up his equilibrium. I don't ever think he was hurt per se, just out of it. Maybe it was because he was his on the bell, and totally wasn't expecting it, I don't know.

    I'm not a fan, but he will be back and he wil show he has some excellent raw attributes. Chin, power and physical strength. Why none of these weren't shown against McCline, I don't know, but they haven't dissapeared.
     
  6. hacim419

    hacim419 Member Full Member

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    Well he beat (i thought Toney won the first fight) Toney twice because Toney is a fat hasbeen and then he beat a lazy neverwas and got put on his can three times, I'll give him credit for getting up and winning, but let's be honest, if that was anyone else with some stamina or heart that had him down, he would not be champion today, Peter's facade as an iron chinned devastating power puncher has been revealed.
     
  7. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    Good assesment. But can we all stop bringing the 2nd Toney fight. Toney is not a player in the HW and will never be. Danny Batchelder beat Toney for god sake.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    The second Toney fight was his best performance, but I don't use it as much of a measuring stick when analyzing how he would do against the top heavyweights.

    To his credit though, he did dominate Toney. Batchelder lost. But like you said, enough of that:lol:
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    Fine post Brooklyn.:good
     
  10. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    Batchelder lost just like Toney lost the 1st time against Peter - on paper.
     
  11. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    There's no shame in losing (or getting a gift) to Batchelder. The guy could give Wladimir and Ruslan a serious run for their money.:D
     
  12. Shpion

    Shpion IDF Full Member

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  13. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Seriously, Toney should consider retirement if he stuggled with Danny Batchelder. But he wont since he still considers himself the best heavyweight in the world:lol:
     
  14. Motor City Sam

    Motor City Sam Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some "fans" on this board are overreacting to his loss, just like they overreact to someone else's win. Peter might not be as good as some of his supporters have said, but he's not as bad as people are saying now.

    Brooklyn described him very well.
     
  15. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually Toney won that fight fair. Batchelder did make it closer with he’s running and all but in the end Toney was a clear winner. I don’t know how someone can score that fight to Batchelder.