There are far too many inconsistencies with Pacquaio

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  1. shinobi108

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    1. Ariza came out and said he feeds Pacquaio 7000calories a day and both Pacquaio and Roach have said many documented times that they struggle to make 147 and can have a full meal on the day of the weigh in. How the %%%% does that make sense to anybody who's studied physical education:patsch
    2. Pacquaio has shown signs of a nervousness when asked about the steroid use, with comments such as being petrified of needles to having mental issues seeing blood?? lol
    3. Alot of people say Freddie Roach wouldn't help him hide his steroid use from the public because it's not his style, Freddie was the coach of james toney when he got caught with steroids freddie also came out and said he believed oscar used steroids while he was training him which basically narrows it down to 1 fight, So Freddie already has the history of going along with it and if you arn't caught out he's not saying anything
    4. Many contradicting quotes check out the next post:bbb
     
  2. shinobi108

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    Tean Pacquiao/Bob Arum/Freddie Roach quotes on the blood tests
    "If they give me a 5-day window or something like that I have no problem with it," Roach said. "When they've drawn blood from Manny in the past he feels weaker for three or four days. It may be mental, but it's there."

    hmmmmmmmmmmm 14days?, 3 or 4 days?.... I don't understand.
     
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    "I spoke to Manny and I've been with him for many years, the guy is literally petrified of needles" - Mr Arum
    "Manny's not taking these drugs because it's a matter of principle not for any other reason", so which is it principal or phobia.
    “That was my biggest mistake, allowing any of this to happen. I should have said no. We’re not revisiting [blood testing]. We’re not negotiating with these punks anymore. If Mayweather wants to fight Pacquiao down the road, he will have to go by the testing the state commission asks for. If not, life goes on,” Arum

    "Manny has a problem with the idea of being drug tested at random all the way upto fight night or few nights before fight night" Koncz, That problem seemed to have been fixed with the proposed 14-day offer right?????


    Floyd accepted 10million per pound penalty, he is now accepting a 2week cut-off to the blood testing, thats ALOT of concellations mayweather is making even though in his head and on paper(ppv number in common opponents) hes the bigger star, he just wants this fight bad because of mannys current position in world boxing as being unbeatable and because of the insane amount of money he would make in this fight, Manny or Bob Arum really should have accepted the 14-day cutoff I just honestly cannot understand why not


    “Yeah, we’ll do it but they have to do it as well. Manny fights clean. If they’ll do it, then we’ll do it,” Roach told Abac Cordero of The Philippine Star. “I don’t have any problem with that. But no blood tests close to the fight. They can take urine tests.”


    Team Mayweathers direct reply to Freddie Roaches claims, “It’s not a one-way thing, it’s both fighters who are subject to testing,” he added.
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    Dr. Don H. Catlin, the head of the Los Angeles-based non-profit Anti-Doping Research, Inc., said a 24-day cutoff for blood testing is not sufficient to prevent abuse. One of the concerns with such a long blood-testing cutoff prior to the date of competition would be the potential use of Erythropoietin, or EPO.

    But Catlin said that wouldn’t be the only concern if there were a 24-day cutoff imposed.

    “If you have a 24-day window that’s free, with no testing, you can take whatever you want and you’re not going to get caught, end of story,” Catlin said. “[Urine testing] does matter, yes, but they’re not going to catch everything by urine testing alone. What you would do is to take Mircera [a type of EPO], which is available and which is not easy to detect in urine and away you go. You need a blood test.”


    "It is true, we did receive a 14-day cut-off offer, I offered it to Manny and he simply replied 'no'" - Bob Arum

    Today Pacquaios long time sparring partner came out and said he himself seen Pacquaio taking steroid injections "in the locker room"
     
  5. SpeedKills

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    manny never said he was afraid of needles
     
  6. shinobi108

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    Also go back and watch the David Diaz vs Manny Pacquaio match, long before any of this stuff came out the HBO team of Lampley, Steward, Merchant speak about Pacquaios strange unique body for over a minute, merchant even says it's strange how manny looks even more ripped and fast at 135 than he did under the weight go back they literally say that exactly!
     
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    :facepalm: go do maybe 1minute of research on google
     
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    Paulie Malignaggis take -

    "First and foremost, you talk to body builders they'll tell you themselves, it's very hard to put on 15-17 pounds of body muscle in a year and a half. Let's remember Manny Pacquiao fought at 130 pounds against Juan Manuel Marquez in 08. He fought In November of 09 against Miguel Cotto 15 to 17 pounds heavier. He looked exactly the same out of "rippedness" and "shreddedness", his body did, at 130 pounds. So you're telling me, this guy 6 foot 4, 6 foot 5, body builder telling me that it's impossible to put on that kind of muscle mass in a year and a half naturally,"

    "You're telling me this little midget, 5'5 or 5'4, 5'6 the most, put on 15 to 17 in natural weight and his team is going to try and explain it saying he eats 7,000 calories a day and he just burns it. If you eat 7,000 calories a day and you're 5'5, 5'6 my man you are not going to looked ripped, you're gonna look a little bloated."

    "Let's look at Manny Pacquiao when he started moving up from 130. He was a very good fighter at 130 and below.When he got hit you can feel it. He was like life and death with Juan Manuel Marquez and he was wobbly a couple of times when Marquez hit him..."

    "Ever since that David Diaz fight, I mean is it just me or does this guy seem like he's King Kong since he went up from 130 pounds. And there's no way he was struggling to make 130 because he weighed-in 122 just a few years before that. Let's face it, once you get past 28 years old you're not going anywhere. Let's be realistic here."

    "I'm taking facts and I'm putting them together and they don't just make sense to me. I don't have all the facts obviously he's passing the tests (mandatory drug tests before every fight) Let's keep in mind there plenty of things you can do to beat drug tests and there's plenty of drugs and steroids that are not detectable. This guy is hurting guys every time he touches them and HE WASN'T DOING THAT AT THE LIGHTER WEIGHTS."

    "At the smaller weights he was very good but he was beatable but now he has gone up in weight and he's not just beating guys and he's crushing world class killers. He's absolutely crushing them!" "He's obviously become a Superman and people say but steroids won't make your chin feel better, yeah, but there's things that can make you feel like you're on speed or something. There's things out there that make you feel like that."
     
  9. CoDer

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    Do you know that Pacman walks 140s in the ring even those days?
     
  10. shinobi108

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    way too many things here I dare anybody to answer every single individual issue, I 110% understand and agree with Mayweathers stance of 'tests or no fight' like he said very clearly in december of 2008!
     
  11. iceman71

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  12. CoDer

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    2008!?

    Floyd's nowhere near the ring these day, if he's not praising ****** Bieber he's watching Lady Gaga concert.

    You're pathetic.
     
  13. aka TORA

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    for a ninja you dont half chat alot of ****
     
  14. shinobi108

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    I suggest you go online and look up the details of the 1st signed contract by floyd mayweather in late december 2009 not 2008 sorry my mistake
     
  15. doomeddisciple

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    You know what's consistent? Pacquiaos performances over ten years.