there are people saying Usyk is the greatest technical fighter currently

He`s got far better craft than Crawford, Bud relies on swithch-hitting and counterpunching, Usyk has better movement while not punching, Bud is easier to hit which was why he ws floored by mean machine, he never had to beat a fighter with a 5 inch reach advantage.

 

Disagree.

Crawford has never actually faced a big enough challenge for us to really guage how great he is - funnily he needs something like what Usyk got last night to cement his skills to the world; stopping Porter would go along way towards that but as other's have said Bud hasn't often fought at significant disadvantage like Usyk did such that we could say "the truly GREAT smaller man, beat the GOOD big man"

Loma's skills are undeniable, but whether due to injury or not, they were highly ineffective for the 1st 6 rounds vs Lopez. Contrast to last night where Usyk imposed the undeniable fact that he was technically a massive step beyond anything AJ faced before in the first 15 seconds of the fight - and rarely relented throughout the next 12.

As a demonstration of being masterful at multiple facets of the sweet science - sometimes simultaneously - Usyks perfomance last night is one of the best I have seen in many a year:-

• Footwork
• Defense
• Traps / feints
• Accuracy
• Angles
• Adjustments
• Stamina / engine

It's very rare that you see a boxer be technically brilliant in almost all the categories there is when the chips are down and the stakes are highest

 

I don’t care for pound for pound lists. They have no set criteria for evaluating who goes where, and are ultimately meaningless when you break down the basic concept.

Usyk is one of the most well-rounded and proven fighters in the sport. That’s undisputed. Loma or Crawford might look better on the eye test but in Loma’s case he hasn’t proven to be able to beat certain fighters he holds a physical disadvantage to, and in Crawford’s case he just hasn’t really fought anyone period. You can argue they should be higher on whatever meaningless P4P list you want to come up with but what does it mean at the end of the day?

 

I'd say he did that much more when he cleaned out a fairly weak 140.

Since he moved up to 147 his resume has been poor which hasn't shown us anything close to what his ceiling may or may not be.

I think Crawford could go up to 154 and beat Jermell for example - and there we would get to see if Crawford could actually execute his technical skills when at a physical disadvantage - or at least having les of an advantage than he usually has.

Loma at least has demonstrated his technical skills against opponents bigger than him, whereas Crawford has not; and recently Crawford's level of comp has not been elite in the slightest (shot Khan and shot Brook don't qualify)

My 2c

 

L:0-2achenko is all flash and athleticism, witnessed by the over the hill 12-loss Salidaddio AND the completely novice Fimo defeats that don't magically happened, his skills proved inferior. And if you combine that with the two best names he actually managed to beat, an old midget jumping weights and not trying, and a brother with T-Rex arms that never got the desire for big things, and you are still 15-2, there's clearly something lacking there compared to Usyks much more impressive 19-0, facing guys 40 lbs North of his natural weight.

Crawford is a goddamn boxing machine that does everything without the flash, he's like the Mad Max Fury Road practical effects with real sht blowing up to sLomo's Disney CGI. The difference between sLomo and Usyk is the actual substance behind that flash, in the form of better adaptability, overall defense, handling weight disadvantage and higher boxing IQ, witnessed by beating all of Joshua, Breidis, Gassiev, Hunter, Huck, Bellew and Glowacki on the road, when L:0-2achenko has a shaky track record even though he was the "name" in each of his professional fights. Inoue is also one with the better skills, but better than Usyk? It's like choosing between my wife and my GF...

 

Yeah, that's why he's a 3-division champion.

 

USyK is not the best technical fighter, he is the Boxing Technique.

 

Oh sorry I thought we were talking skills not resume, but I think the then-top10 P4P Gamboa, unifying all 4 belts at 40, Brook, Khan, Burns on the road, and Postol is a solid run WITH NO LOSSES or obvious skill deficits, but I agree, with his superior skills Pacquiao, Spence, Garcia and Thurman should be on his resume, and the hell, Salido, Garcia and sLomo too. Wonder why neither wanted no part of him tho...

Who wins between Bud and sLomo in your opinion at 135?

 

why the other thread on technical skill given this one? All anyone is gonna reply in the other is the same as this one...