There is a reason why some fighters do not fight hard punchers

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Things do not happen by chance. Careers are planned, and once a fighter reaches certain level his career is closely managed.

    If a fighter consistently does not fight hard punchers there is a reason for that. And 99% the reason is that his team does not trust his chin.

    Do you have examples of fighters who never fought hard punchers? (It doesnt matter if they finally were KTFO the first time he did it or if they happened to have the sturdiest chin ever, I would like to see examples of fighters consistently fighting people with no power at all).

    Spence, ofc, is the one I have in mind. And my theory, ofc, is that his chin sucks BIG TIME, and that that's the reason why he has never ever ever fought a hard puncher. I would like to see some examples of fighters who did that (fighting only featherfisted guys), my memory sucks.
     
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  2. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Munguia immediately popped into my mind, especially for a guy with 42 fights and a WBO title at one point.
     
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  3. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Danny Garcia?
     
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  4. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Where did you pluck that 99% figure from when you can only offer one example?
     
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  5. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kell Brook wasn't exactly featherfisted.
    I wouldn't class Spence in with the punch avoiders. Kell Brook is a decent chin test. Who else was he supposed to face? I can't picture Thurman beating Spence, he tried to fight Pac, there just haven'tbeen a lot of great punchers at 147 lately. I suppose he could have fought an aging Matthysse, but that overlap window was very narrow.

    Prior to the car crash, I don't see an issue with Spence's matchmaking (by the depressing standards of the era). After that my problem is with the sanctioning bodies who allowed a guy who barely fought to hold three belts in a division with some exciting young talent.

    Certainly it should be impossible to be a unified champion fighting less than once a year.
     
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    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    'Probably always', when only one example is offered makes no more sense than '99%.'

    Please provide some examples of what you are gauging your conclusion on.
     
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  7. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Matthyse & Thurman were hard punchers. Spence as well. Danny has a good chin.
     
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  8. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Spence fought all top opposition available. Brook & Garcia are solid punchers. Many people that fought Garcia said he hits very hard (Thurman & Porter I believe). He's hardly avoiding big punches.
     
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  9. Showstopper97

    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    On the top of my head I'd say Bowe & V Klitsckho
     
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    Showstopper97 The Icon Full Member

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    Danny not Mikey. Plus it's not Spence's fault Brook decided to go up in weight to challenge GGG. He was his mandatory before then.
     
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  11. miniq

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    Spence has an iron chin....more so than crawfish
     
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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    You don't develop the style Spence uses without having an iron chin, iron will and great recovery powers. Would have been chinned and knocked down years ago.

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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    I can list many great men Ali & Fury among them who have been rocked and dropped by men who are relativity lesser than Ugas but would you say their chins "suck big time" no. Crawford has been rocked plenty of times himself. Errol Spence has an iron CHIN he got catapulted out of a Lamborghini and the roadside came off worse. He is a terminator.

    Biggest issue Spence has is that weight 147 is now hard to make at mid 30's. Not 25 anymore.
     
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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    Everyone knows Spence is end of life. Post crash. Retina detached. Struggles with the weight. Why Crawfish was biding his time till the last second. Spence wasn't going to make 147 again after this year which is why the fight finally got made. But he's still a terminator and as such Crawfish will box around him carefully for 12 rounds.

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    miniq FURY COMETH 2026 Full Member

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    "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
     
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