There is a reason why some fighters do not fight hard punchers

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Spence has an iron chin....more so than crawfish
     
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  2. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Yes, I saw that when 37% KOs Ugas punched him and he spat his mouthguard and turned back. (note the irony)
     
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  3. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    You don't develop the style Spence uses without having an iron chin, iron will and great recovery powers. Would have been chinned and knocked down years ago.

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  4. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    You can develop that style without an iron chin if all the punchers you fight are lightweight.

    Here you are, your "iron chin"

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    Look at how Spence turns his back, I wouldnt be surprised if Spence quits on his stools.

    I repeat, Ugas is a guy who cant reach more than a 3x% KO ratio. He is feather fisted as F. Crawford, who has KTFO every single oponent he has fought in the last 7 years (6 of those oponents were undefeated), is going to punch a hole through his face.
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    I can list many great men Ali & Fury among them who have been rocked and dropped by men who are relativity lesser than Ugas but would you say their chins "suck big time" no. Crawford has been rocked plenty of times himself. Errol Spence has an iron CHIN he got catapulted out of a Lamborghini and the roadside came off worse. He is a terminator.

    Biggest issue Spence has is that weight 147 is now hard to make at mid 30's. Not 25 anymore.
     
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  6. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    You can show me Ali being rocked, but I dont think you can show me Ali spitting his mouthguard to get a way out or turning his back after being punched.

    Everybody gets rocked at some point, look at Crawford vs Kavaliuskas. But when you turn your back because a 3X% KOs guy punched you, there is a problem there. Specially when your next oponent has KTFO every freaking body during the last 7 years and has a dog in him that is rarely seen in a ring, with ATG killer instict.

    Crawford, when rocked, he just gritted his teeth, and fought back. Not the same, sorry.
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Everyone knows Spence is end of life. Post crash. Retina detached. Struggles with the weight. Why Crawfish was biding his time till the last second. Spence wasn't going to make 147 again after this year which is why the fight finally got made. But he's still a terminator and as such Crawfish will box around him carefully for 12 rounds.

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  8. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Wait for your boy to be beaten to a pulp to start making excuses. It's cringe to start so soon.


    If crawford manages to box him (winning the rounds) consistently, Spence will not see round 12, btw. There is no wide UD for Crawford. Crawford loses, wins very very close decission (next to robbery) or wins by KO. Those are the only options. Spence does not have what it takes to take a sustained beating for 12 rounds by a guy like Crawford.
     
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  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, fear the one who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
     
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  10. Dynamicpuncher

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    I think Riddick Bowe avoided big punchers in 90s, i know he fought Hide but he was much smaller and a blown up Cruiserweight.
     
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  11. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I meant Spence fought Danny Garcia, who is a good puncher.
     
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  12. KiwiMan

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    I think Brook who fought Spence, although damaged, was a lot better than the version who fought Crawford. He believed he could win (was close to 50-50 at the bookies) and did actually land some decent stuff on Spence. Against Crawford, that confidence wasn't there and he at best hoped rather than believed. So I do think the OP overstates the chin issue, even though I do agree with the more general point that Spence wouldn't absorb a 12 round beating.

    I do agree that Crawford is going to beat Spence nonetheless, and Crawford has a mean streak so if it's one-sided in his favour it doesn't go 12 rounds.
     
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  13. Showstopper97

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    Alright my bad. I misunderstood.
     
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  14. iceferg

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    Conor Benn is the first one who comes to mind. Smaller fighters, over the hill that are not noted as punchers is his mo.
     
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  15. jawbreaker

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    Spence is going ro beat the hell out of Crawford.
     
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