There will be no surprise on Saturday

itsa huge bitch · Jun 30, 2011

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You peope are arguing about ths constanty and actually wasting a lot of time anyone who wants david haye to win are not going to recognize Vlads ability and so forth.Vlad does have pretty good footwork forwhat he has todo he doesn'tfight well backng up but he hasn't actually had to. He may have to this time and we shall see if he does it well enough. The real advantage tht Kitschko hasis his size and quicknss foot he reacts moves and sets up quicky to counter. The jab allows him to do that. vlad moves laterally enough to counter wih the hook. All in ll I think that Vlad is to big and athletic and defensive minded for him to lose I expect a toppage by the 5th let us say the third.
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bet me if your so sure

Cableaddict · Jun 30, 2011

I think the only factor that really matters is defense. The OP correctly gives the edge to Wlad, since his defense is"decent" and Haye's is basically non-existant.

Despite Wlad having stated that he wants to punish Haye for many rounds, I expect a first round KO. Haye will try a rt-hand "haymaker," drop his left & then stick his head forward like he always does, and Wlad will remove it from his torso.

The really interesting bet is, how many seconds will the headless Haye manage to run around the ring, before collapsing? I figure 7 seconds.

FAT_TONEY · Jun 30, 2011

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Both men are in their prime, in the best shape of their career. I think nobody will do a major mistake in the fight. So the better men will win and that is by all respect to Haye, Klitschko.

Lets look at it closely:

Punch:

Both men are hard punchers, but Klitschko showed he can KO every HW in the world.
Haye KO´ed a lot of Cruisers and blown up Light-Heavy. In the HW he made trouble to his opponents, but he never did a one punch KO.

So Klitschko advantage.

Handspeed

Haye has tremendous handspeed, but Klitschko who is often called robotic, has equal handspeed. He will connect on Haye.

Equal

Footwork:

Klitschko is a very good mover for a 6`6 guy. Haye sometimes is flatfooded and loses balance sometimes.

Advantage Klitschko.

Combos:

Both men are onedimensional in their punch output.

Klitschko does straight 1-2 or left hook. Recently he took the Uppercut to his repertoire.

Haye is equal. Straight 1-2 combo but he likes to trow a wide right hook or cross and if he misses he throws the left hook after it.

Equal

Reach/Height

Klitschko advantage.

Defensive:

Klitschko meanwhile has a extremely good defensive. When did he was hit flush the last time. Must be Peter in 2005.

Haye has definitively flaws in that departement. He is often open after his punches and sometimes he relies too much on his body movement and slipping punches. Thats too risky vs. Klitschko.

Advantage Klitschko.

Corner:

Well Manny stewart is much more experienced then adam Booth. Hands down.

Advantage Klitschko.

Chin:

I think Hayes chin is better then some people think.But its not better then Klitschkos and no more then mediocre for Heavyweights.

Equal.

Experience:

People say Klitschko never boxed somebody as good as Haye. Thats true. But Haye never boxed somebody as good as Klitschko. The difference between both "step-ups" is not comparable. Klitschko boxed guys like Byrd, Ibragimov, prime Peter. Haye is only a little bit better as them. Hayes best opponents are Enzo, Mormeck or Ruiz. Klitschko is a league better then them.

Further Klitschko is experienced in huge fights. Haye....is not. After all the talk a lot of pressure is on Haye. He could have it easy as an underdog, but now there a expectations he has to fulfill.

Advantage Klitschko

In the end, in these big fights were nobody wants to make a mistake, there are no surprises.

So i think Klitschko wins that one.
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I don't think any of the two will take a risk come saturday. So for this fight being so hyped, there will indeed be no surprise this saturday. I predict a boring points win for Wlad.
(yeah, I know both men are big punchers with shaky chins, but they both know too, that's why... there will not be a KO)

markclow · Jun 30, 2011

Klitchko SHOULD win on paper but this heavyweight boxing and two heavy punchers.

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