There will never be another great American heavyweight.

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No he doesn't you ****ing ******.

 

Last year was my first trip to the States. What struck me was the shear ridiculousness of the amount of cash floating around in football. If the US colleges brought scholarships for boxing back, they would dominate the HW division for decades to come.

Even if you had a young HW with the same potential as a young Cassius Clay coming through, if he had even half a chance of a career in football, he would switch sports.

 

there's probably alot of potential sitting in the prisons... street kids with a **** the world attitude who do whatever it takes to survive... that's the mentality it'll take... someone has to scoop them up young and take them under their wing like d'amato/tyson...

 

I'll post again! Every year 100,000,00 young boys take part in high school football, of that 100,000,00 only 9000 go on to play college ball, of that 9000, only 200 go on to play pro football, or 0.2%.

In 2011 there were over 1600 man playing in the NFL, of that 1600 only four made 15+ million(US. dollars) in 2011. Or, one 15+ million earner for every 400+ players.

Now 1096 pro heavyweight were active in the same year(2011),
of that 1096 three made 15+ million (US. dollars), Vitali and Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye. Or, one 15+ million (US. dollars) earner for every 366 pro heavyweight boxers :hi:

 

Mr.Price beat John Mcdermott! Big Deal. Mcdermott was old and fat and my old 75 year old boxing coach could KO that slob.
Stop it. I'm not even saying that I hate the British HW's but I'm just saying that there are decent Americans in the game. Seth Mitchell has as good a shot as anyone at the moment.

 

Apparently not seeing as how you have given up on Americans in the heavyweight division. You don't know how the sport works obviously. There will be great American heavyweights and boxing is not dead at all.
Seth Mitchell,Deontay Wilder are two of them and George Foreman III is 15-0 (14KO)
all future champions. They were saying the same **** before Dempsey rolled in and started smashing people and they are saying it now,once again idiots will be proven wrong.
And I think you are right by the way,you have certainly "forgotten the history of boxing."

Come Get Some *****.

 

Yes, numbers like these are a start but we still need more to find out how things really stand. Everybody keeps saying that "our athletes are elsewhere, in other sports" but I've never really seen anyone back it up.

Flatlander, what do you base that on?

We need to find out the relative decrease of pro boxer which should correspond with a relative increase in participants in other sports in the same time-span. But that's not nearly enough since this could very likely have happened in other countries as well. If so, the situation is the same for everybody and can't really be used as an excuse. But then again, a lot of other factors could differ.

What tells you that increased globalization of the sport also couldn't have accounted for the shift in dominance? If a lot more boxers, say, from Cuba, China or former USSR countries get involved in the pro game then naturally the competition sharpens. Isn't that right? Just like in most aspects of society? Quite basic, really. I find that highly more likely to be influential than vague, weakly based arguments about "lack of participants" that only stinks of sour grapes. Why not just give credit where credits's due? To say that an other persons success has come about because "you really don't care" or just because of your own failure is a defense mechanism and only part of the truth. But then again, most of pro boxers do this so why not boxing fans as well, hey?

Role models also play a part since there is no Tyson currently that young boxers can look up to. There are a lot of factors into play so just mentioning one is simplifying it to the extreme.

 

Chris Byrd and Lamont Brewster both beat Klitschko's so someone else will come along one day. It doesn't really matter to me anyway. I am a Klitschko fan. I like David haye and Dereck Chisora. Nationality doesn't matter to me - just the fights.

 

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SUPER SETH MITCHELL :rasta

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Never? No way, someone will come up and take the lead for the US at some point.

 

sad how America with 312 million people cannot find one heavyweight with skills. Every current heavyweight in America is a disgrace and it's sad to see the most dominant country on earth not have one good heavyweight.sad my guess is 5 out of 10 people ealking the street in the US can beat the heavy's we have.

 

NOT this guy though!!

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Quit making excuses, the reason you don't have good heavyweights is because you don't have the talent for it. Simple.