There's a way to save Kelly Pavlik's reputation: FIGHT PAUL WILLIAMS!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Jul 13, 2009.


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  1. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    Yeah he is a big mofo. He aint no 6-1, he was huge against Winky who is atleast 5-10
     
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  2. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I understand this, but IMO PW is still legit at MW. Wright might be a career LMW, yet he still took Taylor's and Hopkins' shots pretty well unlike Pavlik, because he didn't got hit flush. I think Williams can avoid getting hit flush for most of the time, and it'd be a great fight from that point, 50/50 in my book.

    I think this is good for Kelly, good for Williams and good for us. What is actually better out there now that AA is gone?
     
    BigBone, Jul 14, 2009
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  3. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    He hasnt shown any indications of a suspect chin and also his defense has been improving alot. Its all about being hit and not hit and I would say today that Pavlik is easier to hit than Williams so I think Pavlik will have his hands full.

    Williams hasnt been at 147 for a while and has moved up so he is a legit middle now. Plus while Pavlik being a big middle is an advantage it is also a disadvantage in that he will be weaker at 160 than he is at 168 because its harder for him to make the weight.
     
    elTerrible, Jul 14, 2009
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  4. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    That's my problem with the fight. Paul in no way has shown me he can avoid getting hit cleanly. As a matter of fact he gets hit too cleanly,

    Mitchell
    Verno
    Quintana
    Wright

    all hit him too cleanly.
     
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  5. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I've been watching P-dub since the his Shobox days and his chin can be shook. He actually freezes up for a quick second when he gets hit.
     
    Ring Master, Jul 14, 2009
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  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough. But getting hit is a defensive and not a weight issue. He can put on 5 pounds of real muscle in a training camp to be a full MW, and if he still gets hit flush by Pavlik, he's going to lose because of that and not because of not being a legit MW. :nut He can get into MW condition right now, in a few month between signing the contract and fighting the fight. Can he get into beating Pavlik condition is another question, I don't know. That's why I'd like to see it.
     
    BigBone, Jul 14, 2009
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  7. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Ya know what -- I'm always screaming at people to do their freaking research before they start typing, and from now on I promise to PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH. Ring not only has PWilly at #10 P4P, they also have him #3 at 160. Taking that into consideration, I'd say ya, make the fight. However, I still have to part company with you on the whole "one fight and redemption" idea. KP needs to get back to his old work ethic, and start knocking mother****ers out left and right like he did on the way up.

    CHAMPION: Kelly Pavlik

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    booradley, Jul 14, 2009
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  8. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    I don't think he can take a middleweight punch right now.
     
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