Theres difference between being Shot and Faded

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by emallini, May 16, 2010.


  1. JMP

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    Hopkins looks pretty shot to me.
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lets be honest Campbell was never really a great fighter. Campbell has a few strong wins like one over the very much overatted at the time Kid Diamond, was losing to Juan Diaz before Diaz got caught and had blood running into his eyes and then Campbell outworked him and won a decision, Ali Funeka which was pretty damn close and Campbell was a weight class bigger, and then there is a close fight that he still lost vs Casamayor. Campbell got dominated by Hlatshywao, KOed twice by Robbie Peden and even lost to Fransico Lorenzo. Campbell was a pretty good fighter but him losing to a guy as talented as Victor Ortiz was never exactly a stretch. Ortiz could beat anyone in the divison it depends if his heart is right.
     
  3. ApatheticLeader

    ApatheticLeader is bringing ***y back. Full Member

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    Can you honestly say that his movement is what it used to be?
     
  4. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He's not as fast as he was in 07 for sure. I'm a big Floyd fan and studied him for the longest and it's fair to say he's not as fast as he used to be but that happens as fighters age especially entering their 30's.
     
  5. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    To be fair, Campbell just had power and never was that good. He gets outworked by younger fighters and is gun shy but I guess he can be considered shot I'm not sure. As for Mosley, he's faded and losing to the arguable PFP #1 fighter does not make one shot. If he loses to Berto, well a case for him can be made that he would be shot.
     
  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree BUT if you say Mayweather is faded than you have to say mosley at 38 is SHOT, his reflexes, stamina, speed & movement are greatly declined.
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    agree with it all aside from campbell..HE IS SHOT IMO
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    TOP 5 IN THE WORLD AND #1 in the lhw division!...CHAD DAWSON IS "****":huh
    NICE OPINION BUT HIS RECORD, RESUME, AND SKILLS SAY OTHERWISE..SO DO MOST BOXING FANS AND MEDIA

    I dont believe JMM has not faded much...has some good W's and has beaten everyone he has fought aside from Floyd and Manny....Faded a little..but not much..Nice list though:good Chad Dawson part is off
     
  9. nervousxtian

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    Vasquez is faded, not shot.

    Shot fighters get KTFO and don't put up a fight.

    Castillo in his last fight is textbook definition of shot.