There's irony in the air!!

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Just surprising that Sergio would even say he will KO Pavlik. History not being on their side and all....
     
  2. haglerwon

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    I think they're both just putting up a front to give the opposition and the fans something to think about. They may even try putting on a new appearance for a round and a half, just to try and give the other side a look that they weren't expecting.

    Ultimately, Kelly's going to jab and combo, try and cut off the ring and be assertive, and Sergio's going to do his particular brand of rubber-torsoed dodging and try and catch Kelly on the counter.

    Can't see Sergio knocking Kelly out, though; not unless he catches him spark clean and unexpectedly with high power, which I think is unlikely. If Martinez wants to win, he's almost certainly going to have to do it the long way.
     
  3. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's not ironic.
     
  4. dbouziane

    dbouziane ............. Full Member

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    kelly couldnt handle bernard. that's different than saying kelly can't handle what sergio does which is quick and flashy but also very sloppy at times. bernard throwing a lead left is a lot different than sergio lunging in w/ his left w/ his face exposed which he has done his whole career.

    "just take one step and smack him!!" - harold lederman. when harold is laughing at you in the ring b/c that's all you have to do to hit sergio then we are a ways off from anything bernard was doing.
     
  5. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good post.
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Maybe in the back of his mind he's going 'Last big pay day after years of obscurity. Hype this **** up BIG.'
     
  7. Hermit

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    Hasn't exactly sent shock waves through the boxing world..... :lol:
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Pavlik when he got that jab pumping still managed to win a close fight with Taylor in the rematch even tho Taylor was landing the cleaner, faster, harder punches. I don't know if Martinez has that kind of power a prime Taylor had because Pavlik's gone in with some hellacious punchers and going for the ko would not be the wisest thing for Sergio to do.

    I do think Martinez has the defense and timing to keep Pavlik humble and win a decision, because I still think Pavlik's the stronger man and he's going to keep on coming. So if Martinez is desperately going for the ko, tires himself out, he might be the one getting stopped. I hope he fights a smart fight because Pavlik will not be so forgiving.
     
  9. Jack

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    Hopefully Martinez wins. Boxing needs the middleweight division to improve marginally but Pavlik is bringing absolutely no excitement any more. He's turned from a hard working, honest, knockout artist to a guy who seems content with fighting easy opponents whilst running his mouth.

    That said, I think the only reason they've chose Martinez is because of weight. I think they believe they can simply overpower him, but Martinez' legs should keep him out of danger. Maybe Pavlik's size will be too much - I don't consider Williams a middleweight and we know Martinez has said, like Williams, he could make 147lbs.

    A big part of me is looking at the difference in fluidity and style. The other part of me is looking at size and Pavlik's dominance. Hard to pick, but I think we need a new, more deserving king of the middleweights.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Utter non-sense and complete bull****. Anyone and everyone who follows boxing knows for a fact that your post is riddled with lies. If you are not intenionally lying, then you are willfully ignorant, which is a lot like practicing being stupid.
     
  11. EleventhHour

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    I really like the idea of a potential future Pavlik/Bute matchup at 168, but I'd rather see Pavlik/Williams (if only so we can stop arguing and I can finally be friends with you Pavlik fans, win or lose).

    If Sergio wins I'd like to see Williams/Martinez II with the winner of that fighting the winner of Pavlik/Bute at 160. Can Bute make 160? Can Williams or Martinez make 168? Who knows.

    It's an exciting division when you consider that most people from 154-168 have a relative degree of weight mobility.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Poor guy hasn't had much practice at it. Somebody get this man James Toney's number!
     
  13. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Just call "Burger King baby!":bananamaniac
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hyperbole, yes, but there are no lies in there.
     
  15. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik has always reminded me of Little Red in certain ways. Remember what they said about Danny? "Knock him down, and he'll get up and kill ya!" Everytime Pavlik got knocked down, or seriously hurt, his opponent got an ass whoppin' for his trouble. Martinez would be extremely foolish to go KO crazy at any point in the fight.
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