These are the "18 World Champions" which Roy Jones Jr beat....

I'm not saying jones resume isn't very impressive it clearly is. The fact some people consider him top dog at 168 is a joke, considering he avoided all the top competition at the time.

 

you have a point that he wasnt undisputed, although he did unify to a degree, and certainly more than anyone esle unified.
but its hard to argue that he wasnt superior to Benn et all. That dont mean they arent damn good. I'd include Eubank for instance as a HOFer, he set a record at the time and warranted that Hall status for it.

 

this is my last post cause you are and yo buddy are sad....those guys were better than them, look at their records and longevity beat better comp and won more titles Virgil Hill was fighting for titles and at a world class level til his 40's while these were at home watching tv....Jones was dropped one time before he was 35 a fact

McClellan, Benn, Collins, and Eubank were champions and very good fighters

Toney and Hopkins are future shoe in hall of famers and great fighters there is a difference

no need to even continue cuz you really are biased, blind and just dont know much holla bro

 

not sure about Benn. He accomplished a lot but what sets him out as different from the pack? He reminds me of Liston a lot, he is this wild card who could beat anyone on his crazy PCP-like day BUT in the long term he didnt add up. Collins might be knocking on the door but then he ran from Calzaghe, so hes hardly HOF material. HOFers dont run from minor title holders.

Eubank def is HOF, as is Darius.

 

Your missing the point what did toney and hopkins do at middle or supermiddle that makes them better at the weight ? Basically who did hopkins or toney beat at them weights who McClellan, benn, eubank or collins couldn't ?

Just because they have had shorter careers or less weight changes doesn't make them any less of a fighter at middle or supermiddle.

 

Boxing knowledge:rofl....

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...you just talk in circles and repeat the same opinion without acknowledging facts, this could go on all day

they dont...who did they beat to deserve that? each other....Michacewski beat Hill, Griffin and most Euro level guys....you aint bully me out of nothing you just sound like a kid that dont know much

their is a difference between a fighter deserving or you wanting them in the hall

Guys like Donald Curry, Michael Nunn, Diego Corrales, Castillo, deserve to be more than they do and they probably wont get in

 

yeeeaahh on that logic you have a point. Benn might be knocking on the door maybe.

But you have to look at it from my perspective. For instance in my eyes Barry Mac is never a HOFer. He was spirited and fun to watch but very limited, accomplished next to nothing at champ level and gave up once the going got tough during his career. I struggle to understand how anyone can put him in the Hall when he his career faltered once he became a champion. Its not like he even had an excuse to quit, like Terry Marsh did. I mean yeah he beat Pedroza, but the guy was at the end of his career, and Barry only made one real defence after that. I think hes more of an Oustanding Acheiver than a HOFer.

Dave McAuley was better than Barry!

 

Toney went undefeated 44 fights til Jones i believe beat Mike McCallum who none of these guys were gonna beat, also Michael Nunn who all these guys would have struggled with and he would have toyed with Benn and was considered the number one or 2 p4p while at those weights because of who he beat

Hopkins defended his ibf title a record 20 times and unified the belts something they didnt do, his comp wasnt that great but he cleaned out the division something they didnt do as well, hell Hopkins went ten years before he lost again after losing to Jones

Toney and Hopkins did more at 160 and 168 than those guys proof is in the pudding

 

its not proof though is it ?

Eubank was undefeated in his first 43 contests, undefeated at middle weight, undefeated in his first 19 title fights and fighting 4 times a year

Benn won his first 22 fights by ko, beat doug dwitt 2 year before toney did, Ko'ed Iran barkley in 1 round 2 and a half year before it took toney to beat him in 9. Then went on to win supermiddle weight title before going 10 title fights undefeated

 

a prime toney was drawing with sanderline williams, getting the **** kicked out of him by dave tiberi, and having life and death split decisons with sosa and johnson. its ridiculous how the gullable brainwashed sheep on esb over-rate this steroid riddled disgrace.

neither jones or toney belong anywhere near a hall of fame, they are proven cheats, a disgrace to the noble art of boxing.