These Are The Five Middleweights I Think Would Have A Slight Chance Against Golovkin.

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    While I still believe GGG would be the prohibitive favorite against all the fighters that I'm going to mention, these are the only ones I think may have a tiny miniscule chance. Personally I think GGG is pretty much unbeatable at Middleweight, especially against the big money options like Canelo, Cotto and Quillin, none of the name guys have close to a chance however a few smaller less known fighters have a decent chance, well at least a decent puncher's chance. Here they are. :DD:


    Number 1: David Lemieux:toney
    Much has been made about DL getting KO'd against Rubio, but few have actually seen the KO, Rubio hit David right behind his left ear and it clearly effected his equilibrium, because technically it was an illegal punch, also his stamina wasn't great back then, because he'd never had to go that deeply into a match. So those 2 factors have everything to do with the RTD. David has improved in the stamina department it seems, so based on GGG not being that amazing fighting off the back foot and not being the hardest to hit target, if David who fights with a somewhat similar high guard as Murray, catches GGG will a decent shot, he may have a slight chance. Although he better jump GGG from the opening bell and go all out because the longer it goes the more his chances greatly diminish. But P4P he may punch just as hard if not harder than GGG.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOzHJ3WOYsM

    Number 2: Ievgen Khytrov:toney
    Khytrov who's 11-0 10 KO's while not known by many he may in fact be an even greater threat than Lemieux. He has the amateur pedigree than Lemieux doesn't, but its no ordinary amateur pedigree he's had 500 matches and has a 80% KO ratio. Which is quite scary. The Ukrainian Khytrov packs the similar devastating touch you and you go down power that GGG possesses and he to a lesser extent utilizes a similar shifting technique that Golovkin uses to cut off the ring and always be in his opponents face. Khytrov may also have more power than GGG, that remains to be seen but he has a higher KO ratio than GGG in the amateurs. He gets hit a little too much but he has a definite puncher's chance as well. He may be The Next Big Thing at Middleweight and sooner or later all of you will want to see Golovkin vs Khytrov like you do with Kovalev vs Beterbiev.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGB6VjrUEh8

    Number 3: Andy Lee:toney
    While Andy would most likely get KTFO early in the match and personally I think he would fold under the pressure of GGG within a few rounds, but he has the great equalizer, The Right Hand of Doom. It may be one of the most devastating weapons in all of boxing, let me put this into perspective, Matt Korobov had never been badly hurt as a pro and I think even as an amateur, but here's the catch he fought Beterbiev and Kovalev as an amateur and has a wins over both. Yet Andy nearly knocked his head loose. Andy would probably get knocked but has a chance with a perfect right hand, which he seems to have perfected when in trouble, which he'll be in from the opening bell.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBd9NfSxiC4

    Number 4: Ryota Murata:toney
    Middleweight Gold Medalist Murata seems to be the total package especially when he first turned pro, his chin seems to be rock hard like many Japanese fighters and he effectively broke down with body punching almost all put before him. Although I started getting worried because he slightly adjusted his warrior style and seemed to turn into a somewhat tentative fighter for a little while in late 2014. But it seems that he may have just been trying to get rounds in early by going the distance a few times. As far as a threat to GGG, not incredibly high but if Murata possesses a chin like many Japanese fighters he may be able to walk through some of GGG's shots and back him up and aybe do enough damaege to hurt but that is a longshot.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvE6sEVcU8

    Number 5: Billy Joe Saunders:toney
    While this one is an incredible longshot, that fact is that Billy Joe is an incredibly slick Boxer who seems to have a solid chin, and if BJS can fight just out of range of GGG punches and land just enough, he may be able to steal 6 or 7 rounds early. However stamina seems to be an issue with him so if he gasses late he's screwed but if he can improve in that department, maybe he could get a MD or SD, but this one is a real stretch. But I do think he's far better and more elusive than Martin Murray so its vaguely possible.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJ5bVc2QQ9M

    Number 6: Sergiy Derevyanchenko
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqVk2U2UnCg
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    As for the rest......
    Cotto gets brutally stopped.
    Canelo gets farther than Cotto But stopped.
    Quillin is too chinny he gets KO'd.
    Jacobs gets Pirog'd again.
    N'Dam would be KO'd wouldn't get far.
    Mora lost to Vera and dropped by Han enough said.
    Eubank Jr. got stunned by BJS GGG KO's him.
    Tureano Johnson gets stopped.
    Heiland gets stopped.
     
  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Who do you think could take on GGG at Middleweight???
     
  3. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    I think it's a stretch to say anyone would beat Golovkin in the middleweight division at the moment.


    Out of the list possibly Andy Lee with his miracle punch and probably Khytrov with his power.



    Lemieux gets knocked out for me but he has a lot of power and that's exactly what he needs against someone like Golovkin. He needs to come forward and push back Golovkin in order to win. I just think his chin won't hold up and gets stopped in the mid rounds.


    Saunders gets knocked out and even he thinks Golovkin would destroy him. He says it in nearly every interview mentioning him. I think he can box very well but eventually his stamina is going to mess up and he gets knocked out.



    Hopefully a dark horse comes along who looks promising that will give GGG some problems to make a fight more competitive at middleweight.
     
  4. TheDarkLord

    TheDarkLord Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All unlikely although OP acknowledges that.

    This is the issue, nobody at middle can even TROUBLE him.

    BJS himself is on record saying he cant beat GGG.

    168 is the only place GGG is getting beat and thats by Ward., Providing Ward can remember how to fight.
     
  5. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Way too early for Kytrov, and BJS has a better chance of waking up tomorrow, building a rocketship and flying to the moon.

    DL and Lee definitely have a punchers chance. DL more than Lee, not because I necessarily think he has more KO power but his power seems more varied. Lee could probably hurt anyone if his right hook lands perfectly... I just think Golovkin would keep his shoulder firmly planted between his chin and danger.

    Lets see how Chudinov does vs Eubank who I dont really rate at all. Right now I dont have a firm opinion on Chudinov, and will be watching more of his work soon since he has a high profile bout coming up.
     
  6. Super Hans

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    None of them would do much. Maybe Murata does best.
     
  7. Pez

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    BJS and Chudinov I don't think would have any chance. Andy Lee has show before he can land a massive punch from outta nowhere so there is always that chance. Lemiux is a good fighter and would like to see him face GGG but GGG would be strong favourite and will need to see Kytrov at a higher level before judging just how good he can be, but he looks impressive so far.
     
  8. Butch Coolidge

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    GGG versus Chud. Kind of amusing for anybody who had cable television back in the 80s.
     
  9. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Khytrov I can see in 2-3 years after he gets more pro exp under his belt. If he can keep himself together. He certainly has talent and power.
     
  10. CST80

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    Cannibalistic Humanoid Underground Dwellers and don't forget part 2 Bud The CHUD:yep
     
  11. lencoreastside

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    To beat GGG you have to push him back. That is the problem. He is so strong and tough, dominates the ring space so well, and hits so hard that no one can drive him backwards. Maybe, with insane two fisted power, Lemieux might have a chance. But it is unlikely. HNN can box superbly, but won't be able to stop GGGs advance..and you must stop his advance to have any chance IMO.
     
  12. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    You know that directly after Rubio knocked Lemieux out Lemieux lost a decision to Joachim Alcine, right? And it wasn't just one punch that Rubio landed. Rubio was outboxing Lemieux who looked like a befuddled amateur facing a veteran. Geale, Macklin, and Murray would all stretch Lemieux out.

    Just look at Lemieux's record of opposition after those back to back losses. He's fighting cab drivers to boost his record like Wilder. Look at his last victory over Gabriel Rosado. Rosado is 0-5 in his last 5 fights.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Chudinov and Saunders stand no chance. The former stands a slim puncher's chance because he can bang a bit but I'd favour Golovkin strongly. Lee would get sparked but he has that great right hook so you'd have to afford him a puncher's chance even though I think he stands very little chance of actually winning at all. Khytrov can bang but he's still way too green and his defence is very leaky. He'd wind up on the wrong end of an absolutely frightful pounding at the moment against a puncher like Golovkin. Lemeuix is extremely explosive and is capable of taking out anyone at the weight if he catches them right. That said, he's out of his league here, IMO, and I think Golovkin would beat the dog sh*t out of him and win via KO.

    Korobov walked into a big right hook in the dying seconds of the first round of his fight against Derek Edwards and was badly hurt. His mind was in a completely different dimension for about 20 seconds, but to be fair to him I think it's a testament to the stoutness of his chin that he was able to remain upright given how badly hurt he was, as indeed it was in the Lee fight.

    Korobov beat Beterbiev in the amateurs? Really? I didn't actually know that.
     
  14. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I know Alcine beat him in a close fight, I wrote about that in my Lemieux thread a few months ago, I chalk that up to David being shook up by blowing his load too early against Rubio and trying to fight more cautiously to save energy, and Lemieux was shutting out Rubio, the only 2 rounds he lost were the last 2. And fighters can improve, and he was basically a kid when the Rubio and Alcine matches happened. Geale would be KO'd and Macklin just got stopped by Heiland who fought kind of Lemieux like against him.
     
  15. CST80

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    You're right it was a razor close decision and Beterbiev won, it was almost a draw. Still he wasn't KO'd by Artur which is what I was getting at.