They got moses itauma in the top 10.....

True, but even then... 40+ opponents and nobody else could outpoint one of the worst boxers in the division?

 

If we're being honest, Fury did in their first fight...

That aside, it'd be more surprising if Wilder hadn't fought C-grade cans for almost his whole career.

Not like he was particularly well proven, either, when his best wins were an ancient hypejob (who would've stopped him if the ref hadn't worked some A-side privilege into proceedings) and one of the worst champions to ever hold a belt.

It's a stretch to even say Wilder was ever a proven contender... But a long running hype narrative means that basic truth is controversial to state.

 

Itauma is fleet of foot, I wouldn't worry about him being hit by Whyte who will be outmatched in just about every department.

Footspeed, handspeed, fitness, technical ability, and yes, power. Whyte has only ever had two big punches and that's the left body shot and left hook.

He wouldn't get close enough to Itauma to manhandle him or to land anything meaningful on him.

 

Only a fanboy could write something so absurd. Joyce is absolutely gone and has zero confidence. Even Parker now would stand a very good chance of beating Joyce, unless he somehow rediscovered form which is highly unlikely.

It's called having foresight. All top boxers hadn't beaten anybody until they did - should we all sit back and wait until a great beats someone before wagering that they'd beat a gatekeeper? I don't think so. Your comments will look laughable in not so long, and you will use the excuse that "he hadn't beaten anyone", to which I'd simply respond that you don't have much of an eye for talent.

 

It's not always about footspeed

It's not always about footspeed, more ring generalship, cutting off the ring, controlling the space. Moses hasn't been in with someone who has had any ability or inclination to attempt this thus far. I'd like to see the step up, but overconfident matchmaking can ruin a fighter.

 

Ring generalship and the other attributes you listed don't work in isolation without the traits that I mentioned. People seem to be really desperate to find ways to give Whyte a chance, but the arguments are so consistently poor and he would simply be steamrolled. It's genuinely absurd. Whyte is a sitting duck and he would never agree to take the fight unless he was paid a ludicrous amount of money. His ego wouldn't take being battered by a nineteen year old nearly half his age.

 

Its a testament to his lack of power.

 

I think Moses can beat Whyte, I'd just like him to get some more meaningful rounds under his belt before he does. One, maybe two more fights against 'live dogs' . Interesting discussion, thanks for your input

 

Which makes my statement that he is unproven correct then. Thanks for confirming.

Your "foresight" means diddly squat and is just a cop out for the fact you have no meaningful basis for your claims.

 

It's more a testament to the lack of ability others had. Boxing isn't all about power as Usyk has consistently shown.

 

agreed, but it still seems like he lacks it. Usyk's power is underrated imo. But, yeah, he does lack some abilities. I think he lacks "dog" so to speak. I reckon his long career has diminished some of his natural abilities somewhat too.

 

That plus any idiot can hop between overhyped prospects (conveniently dumping each one the moment they lose to fixate on the next) in the hopes of finally being able to claim they've "seen the future" or had superior foresight or any other BS term of choice.

These hypechasing numpties are like problem gamblers chasing their losses and insisting there's a big win just around the corner.

SMH, it's best to just ignore the intellectually inferior sometimes, bud.

 

Well put. It's also laughable claiming an established top 5 heavyweight is a gatekeeper, but their prospect is the next big thing... Consistent.

 

Not even sure what to say about that. I did laugh though. At you. Not for you.

 

Why?

I'm inviting you to dig your grave even deeper.