They say the boxer has the advantage over the puncher in a rematch (AJ-Usyk)

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  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Joshua knows what he needs to do. He won't be able to load up and look for one big shot against Usyk. The Ukrainian's defense is just too good. AJ won't land the big bomb. He knows what he needs to do. And that is to go after Usyk. To pressure him. Use his size and power advantage and put it on him. To just ****ing have it with him. If he does this he can win the fight and KO Usyk. But I just don't know if AJ has the intestinal fortitude to fight that kind of fight. To really bite down on the mouthpiece and walk through the fire.

    Because although Usyk may not be a big puncher he has incredible accuracy, precision and sharpness to his punch. He can put a stiff hard punch directly on that chin. Immaculate technique. And I don't know if AJ wants to sacrifice his body for the victory. To walk through the bombs to land his own.

    He tried boxing Usyk and it didn't work. He tried to being the puncher and it didn't work. Both the wrong strategy. He must go after him. To hunt him down and put the hurt on.

    I do think AJ can beat Usyk. He just has to ****ing go in there and have it with him.
     
  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Joshua had a good gas tank then he could go that route, but he doesn't. 2 rounds of trying to attack Usyk and he'll be out of oxygen, gasping for air before Usyk retires him

    He can't beat Usyk, simply because he's a flawed design.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    You bring up a good point. To utilize the strategy I've suggested he needs the gas tank. Regardless of gas tank, he ought to try and go after him regardless. If he gasses then he gasses.
     
  4. Wig

    Wig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ doesn’t have ‘that big bomb’ this isn’t Wilder here where if he touches you you’re sleeping. Who has Joshua knocked out who isn’t old and shot to pieces? Charles Martin?
     
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  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Wilder can laser his right hand also so no matter how good you are he can land it

    AJ has to work much harder to line up a straight right and the shorter power punches are even harder.

    Usyk has spent a lot of his career taking shots off his guard though and will bait shots so getting tagged is possible. 15% chance I'd say AJ can land something big.

    The body on Usyk is where he is really weak. Wilder actually has a sneaky left hook to the body which shouldn't be mocked.

    Joe Joyce has a better chance, more stamina than AJ and a solid chin...Usyk could still out game him...but that was a younger Usyk and younger worse Joyce.

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    Fury on form would wear him down for sure. Fairly sure Fury is going to go after Usyk or AJ.
     
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  6. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Trust. After 4 or 5 rounds Bodybuilder's gas tank will be almost completely empty for the terrible effort to try to KO Usyk early, in the same time he will be counterpunched several times by Usyk so much hard that at a certain point he will begin to see 3 or 4 of Usyks like General Zod with Superman in "Superman II" while they were in the "Fortress of Solitude" and Bodybuilder like Zod wont be able to hit the right one.

    Usyk KOs Bodybuilder within 5 or 7 rounds.
     
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  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joshua is going to eat straight lefts and gas quickly being "more aggressive."

    Short night for Usyk.
     
  8. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Not sure if Joshua is the puncher in this matchup. He didn't hurt Usyk once in the first fight while Usyk buzzed him several times. And Usyk wasn't even trying to KO him. Calling Joshua the puncher in this matchup is a misinterpretation i think. I would say he's the guy with the punchers chance more than calling him a puncher who is fighting a boxer (Usyk).
     
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  9. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Was Ali the puncher against Foreman?
     
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  10. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    He wasn't the puncher mainly because he didn't throw anything. He didn't throw one left hook in anger in 12 rounds.
     
  11. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    he is going to throw the jab with authority. if usyk is able to elude it, he will jab at his chest. this will be to maintain a distance that is beneficial to his advantages. he will alternate with a 1-2, this will establish a pattern to work feints off of. he will start to see how usyk is defending these punches, and will adjust accordingly. he will be working at catching usyk when hes coming in, and keeping a distance where he can land punches, in order to keep usyk working constantly. diminish him as you go rounds.
    i base this on garcias ability to train guys to do specific things. and i think he has the brains to grasp the strategy. i know he has the physical tools to employ it.
     
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  12. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    And why didn't he throw the left hook? Because he was anxious. He was getting countered all night long from all angles. And it'll happen again. Joshua can throw as many jabs as he wants to, he's not landing them consistently and Usyk will land his jab and even if he takes one back he's already throwing some other stuff at AJ who will keep him honest. AJ was frozen. He'll freeze again once Usyk takes one or two good shots and keeps throwing stuff at him. Joshua can't deal with guys taking his best shots.
     
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  13. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    Yes, I never understood that gameplan. He needs desperately to attack Usy's body.
     
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  14. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Joshua just too slow Usyk.
     
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  15. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    AJ did win some rounds, it wasn't a total blowout & this time coming having prepared for a lengthy amount of time & I'm assuming with complete different mindset & new strategies in place,

    It's very possible he can pull of the win this time around, especially if he is better conditioned & start's to punches hard through instead of just touching up Usyk like he did & of course he needs to jab allot more, feint & move his head, he was also very stationary in the fight compared to Usyk,

    Joshua did good work throughout rounds 5-7/8 & the following rounds after he was still getting his punches in, it's just Usyk would land two punches to AJ's one & ended up out working him in the process making that the difference,

    Either way it will be a tough task for both men, so we shall see.